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Discussion in 'Reloading' started by champ198, May 8, 2008.
lets see how you all got your stuff set up on the bench
ill have to get some pics of mine tonight
AggieMM, I've stole a few ideas off some of those threads over the years. Wealth of info on them.
Oh, the chaos!!
Wish mine was this clean. Yours looks excellent.
A clean work bench is a sign of sick mind!
Alpackin True CRB style .
The Progresso cans for turret stands what a great idea !
Ok here is my reloading closet!
It's a 360 degree reloading station!
I haven't put the drywall up yet. But it is still functional.
Above no longer exists.... I moved out of the closet above.
Now it looks like.
I'm glad to hear that. Mine is a mess now.
It's a little more crowded these days.
Well I was moving to be close (across the street) to my grandkids when I decided to start reloading again. The house I bought need significant upgrades so no place to set up the reloading equipment.
My son (& more importantly his wife) agreed to let me set up a small, temporary space in their garage so I have half my presses set up & am happily getting going again.
Since I could only have about 2 of dedicated space on their 16 bench and
knew I wanted to have at least two presses set up, I decided to mount a 2 (actually 25) wide x 50 long section of 2 oak countertop, which my son had just waiting for a good project. I got some 6061-T6 aluminum channel (3 x 0.258" x 1.5) for bracing. I ran a length of channel the length of the top and one on the bottom, under each press from side to side. Bolted it to the top of the existing bench, through the bench from the top channel to the two bottom channels, & with angle brackets to studs in the wall. It is VERY stable. Heres what it looks like (you'll notice I took way more than 2' - but not "dedicated"):
Heres the die setup, with the KISS bulletfeeder. Also, I have added the EGW U die in station 1, for resizing. This had the added benefit of allowing easier removal of the powder measure. The Hornady New Dimension sizing die that I used initially had a much longer depriming rod, which interferred with powder measure removal (because of the KISS). The dies are: EGW "U" sizing die, Hornady LnL powder measure w/KISS ptx, KISS bulletfeeder. Hornady New Dimensoin seating die with Microjust, Hornady New Dimension Taper Crimp Die. One benefit of the LnL AP is half station indexing. The shellplate indexes a half station on the upstroke and a half station on the downstroke. This makes it very easy to visually check the powder level between the powder measure/ptx station and the KISS bullet insertion. Don't think you can do this on a Dillon (to be fair though - the half station indexing is also the source of the "5th station" restrictions/problems).
Heres how tight a fit the KISS makes the powder measure between the KISS & the primer tube shield no contact, but its sure close. You can also see the primer tube follower I added (currently 1/8 brass rod). The blue tape marks zero. I have marks for 5 & 10 remaining also. Im planning to replace this brass rod with a brass tube. Itll still be plenty of weight, but in case of a detonation a tube should make a much less efficient missile.
I bought the $25 bracket from Roger (bulletfeeder.com), so I didnt need the big PVC base tube. It was great (looks like an angle bracket with a toilet mount) but mounting it to the case feeder column (which I did) requires ~1/4 shim between the mounting bracket & the column of the case feeder to avoid interference with the lower case feeder bracket. No biggie.
The only other thing Ive done is to JBweld a stainless steel washer to the press frame under the primer ram. This makes it much easier to seat the primers (for me, anyway), & doesnt bang on the cartridge catcher bracket. It does, however, mean you have to raise the ram slightly to manually cycle the primer slide. I have never had a primer pick up or primer slide issue except for the last primer. If youre going to reload another hundred reload the primer tube when you get below 5 remaining. I thought I had a primer feed issue but it turned out to be an indexing problem. Even if it seems ok on initial setup, watch it closely for the 1st few hundred rounds. Mine started slightly undershooting on the downstroke. The hole didnt perfectly align with the primer ram, so when I pushed the handle up nothing happened & I spilled powder. A LITTLE counterclockwise on the left pawl adjustment HEAVEN.
I have another LnL AP & a LnL classic single stage, which will have to wait for MY garage to be finished. I have 2 6 benches for the presses & an 8 bench for cleaning, repair, & projects. I have also designed & built (with emachineshop.com) strongmounts, which I got locally powdercoated, custom designed for my presses. OK, I know its stupid, but Im not a mechanical engineer & Id never designed anything in sheet metal by myself before. Just had to try. Their software is great (for a novice) their pricing is pretty high (and its gone up since I did mine).
I know this is long but I have to say I LOVE the LnL AP & the Redding UltraMag. Also for the UltraMag, I use the Lee Autoprime II. This is a fantastic product. It feels cheesey the 1st time I assembled it I almost broke it you have to help the last ~20 primers down the chute (I use a small allen wrench), but you can adjust the primer depth precisely, never had an upside down primer - & in use it feels & works GREAT. Also, the RCBS Chargemaster is amazing. As someone who has spent a lot of time with a trickler NEVER AGAIN! You gotta see it to believe it. The problem is its so fun to watch. Using the manual setting, you can actually use a powder measure(set a few grains below your desired charge) to fill the pan & it will trickle the last few grains to a perfect charge. What a trip! I remember the painstaking process of charging precision rifle rounds by hand. A few no big deal but make a hundred, ouch! This thing is amazing (to me).
After the 1st 8K, the only "complaint" I have is that I wish it had a swaging station & primed on the ram upstroke - 1 out of 50 "crimped primer" cases that get through my hand screening sure play havoc with my reloading rate & my elbow (I'm old).
Here it was the day I got it set up:
It's not so clean, nowadays, LOL!
I installed the cabinets in my "office" for the sole purpose of mounting the press. I love it!
Here is my setup for now. It tends to change quite a bit as time passes.
Here is my bench.
Here's mine. I am so happy with how it came out. It's not this clean right now!! LOL