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Semi-Auto Firearms Are Now Outlawed...

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or heavily regulated in the alternative universe of this thread. Assume that for whatever reason, you wake up and your AR, AK, Glock, SIG, Model X, that can run semi-auto AND hi-capacity is no longer a legal option. (NOT trying to get into a "cold dead fingers" argument).

What would you pick as a defensive firearm? And why?

Remember, no semi AND hi-capacity.

Discuss...:)
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Not a problem, in this hypothetical situation.

85% of my guns are bolt action rifles, one of the few upsides of a serious milsurp addiction.

Now when they come for the AK and VEPR, we are going to have problems.
 

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I would write a new Declaration of Independence and the outlawed guns would be instantly legal again.
Or better yet, just acknowledge and respect the one we already have. That is all we have to do.
 
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There are viable non-semiautomatic options like two of my pump action rifles shown below, products of both the UnConstitutional guns laws of NYS and the '94 AWB:

Troy "Sporting Rifle" model in 5.56x45 with 60 round Magpul PMAG D-60:

Romanian CUGIR "PAR-1" model in 7.62x39 (flash hider added post 2004) with new production Korean 75 round drum mag:

Both have available and accept common to their respective platform 5 and 10 round mags if need be.
Love the way you think, more is better, there is always a workaround to absolutely BS liberal newspeak.
 

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Now that I finally got a hi-cap definition to work with (more than 8 rounds)...

For handguns, I'd probably stick with Glocks. Specifically, a G26 with multiple mags blocked to 8 rounds for concealment along with a G23 and a G19 with perma-blocked mags for holster work. The ergonomics and deep-programmed skills would be just too much to give up. If the factory ever offered an 8-shot optional mag for the G43, that could supplant the G26, but it probably wouldn't replace it.

For rifles, again, the AR just offers so much and I've spent too many long hours developing my current skills to drop ARs for any other rifle. I'd get a handful of Magpul-10-shot-style 8-shot mags and practice my mag changes until I could do them as fast and smoothly as the top-level pistol competitors you see in all the video clips.

Alternatively (or rather, in addition to the semi-auto ARs), a couple of solid, well-tested pump-action AR-style rifles that could take hi-caps would also be part of my arsenal, including several heavy-barrel models with light triggers for accurate mid-rifle-range shooting and fewer reloads.

Once they got the bugs worked out of them to my satisfaction, I'd also pick up one or two of these new detachable-box-mag-fed shotguns with some 8-shot mags. Although a pump-gun could take bigger mags, I think 8 rounds is a good compromise for size/portability/weight, so I wouldn't want/need any bigger mags.
Absolutely go with what you know.
 

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And this entire topic is why I own a 12 gauge 6 shot pump shotgun, and about four 5 shot Mosins, and about three 5 shot Mausers. Now my 8 round Garand would be illegal, as well as my various 10, 20, and 30 round semi autos.

The hi cap stuff also has 5 round mags, fortunately all the higher capacity stuff will be lost in a tragic boating accident.

Liberal politicians just don't get it, nothing they can do, nothing they can legislate, is going to make one single bit of difference to criminals.

By definition, criminals do not obey the law, which is the politician's only realm of influence.
 

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REALLY? You may also be like me but you think Millions More? Lotta "TALKERS" out there but very few that Walk Their Talk I've found. Talk is Easy, action isn't when you KNOW your gonna get Killed.
Well, I grew up in the Carter era, so I have seen how bad it can get. When the every essence of what it is, to be an American, can be so warped out of shape there is just no hope for a better future. I lost 7 people in my senior high school class to suicide, because they just didn't see there was anything to live for.

Then, the clouds parted, and the sun shone through, and his name was Reagan. He once said, his biggest job was as cheerleader, to give people hope that tomorrow could be better. The optimism he gave us, that we could be the masters of our destiny, and the captains of our fate, is why 3 years later I was buying my own home, working two jobs and actually had a future. Why I had kids, and planned for retirement, because I thought there was a chance there might be one.

Clinton was a joke, Gingrich is the only reason he got reelected, and other than getting his knob polished by an intern accomplished nothing.

I wandered through the wilderness that was Obama, went from making 6 figures a year to qualifying for welfare and food stamps, although I never applied or received them. Because that is who people like him, and like you, are. But I survived Carter, survived Obama, and will survive in the future, because we actually have a leader in Trump who understands the American Dream.

If you, and those like you, think for one second that isn't worth putting your life, liberty, and fortunes on the line to protect, come get some.
 

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Major problem is, there are fewer & fewer American's to create civil unrest.
Don't count us out.

I'm grey, don't move like I used to, but have a certain amount of DGAF in me, that I'm not going to go quietly.

And in honor of that.....


And that absolute ****** that is Don Henley will not allow the original to be posted on YouTube, screw him.
 

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98% of all gun related deaths involve a handgun. Your EDC will most likely suffice if you’re training like you should. Look, my stance isn’t against the general public, I’m not some leftist who actually believes that the bad guy cares about laws. Anyone with half a brain knows that all the laws and rules in the world will never stop the bad guy from being the bad guy. LEOs fall into that general public category when not on duty (except duty to act) as far as what is legal to carry. On duty, is just that...an officer can’t carry anything the public can’t unless working in an official capacity. Truth is, most officers have a handgun and a rifle or shotgun. Full autos and the like are for Special Ops, SWAT, SOG. The specialist are fighting different battles than the ones that go wrong on a typical call or stop. Those weapons are issues to departments and teams not individuals. So there’s really no need to be jealous, of course I still am.

When Joe Public leaves his house, he doesn’t have a big target on his back. He has no duty to act but I still 100% agree that law abiding citizens should be afforded the same and in fact, if you have enough money, for the most part, you can make it happen. With that said, I really don’t understand why any law abiding citizen, would be too worried about the guy/girl who wears body armor on a daily basis needing the capability of fighting back.
WTF are you even saying? This makes zero sense.
 
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