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selling FTF to out of state LEO

Discussion in 'GSSF' started by mad.gunsmith, Jan 4, 2010.

  1. mad.gunsmith

    mad.gunsmith NRA and GSSF Life Member Silver Member

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    is selling FTF to LEO from out of state legal?
     
  2. Narc1911

    Narc1911 Anchora Salutis

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    It is illegal unless the transfer is made through a FFL.
     

  3. RMTactical

    RMTactical Battle Born CLM

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    Nope, not legal unless done through an FFL.
     
  4. FLIPPER 348

    FLIPPER 348 Bigfoot enthusiast enthusiast

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    a rifle would be ok to most other states
     
  5. mad.gunsmith

    mad.gunsmith NRA and GSSF Life Member Silver Member

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    Thank you I was 99% sure but the LEO part made doubt <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
     
  6. Kosher Larry

    Kosher Larry MWAG

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    It is not legal to transfer FTF. You can accept payment FTF and then ship the weapon to an FFL in their home state.
     
  7. G33

    G33 Frisky! CLM Millennium Member

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    LEO has no status with ATF.
    Period.
    :supergrin:
     
  8. J.R. Bob Dobbs

    J.R. Bob Dobbs Nerd

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    Just curious, did he say.. "I'm a Cop so the rules don't apply to me" ?
     
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    100% illegal.
     
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    Flatulence 5X EMU Champion

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  11. shays4me

    shays4me gunaholic

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    Uh, no. That is interstate arms trafficing. Highly illegal. It's legal to buy a long gun in another state than your residence through a dealer. No handguns though. Cooky laws.......
     
  12. mad.gunsmith

    mad.gunsmith NRA and GSSF Life Member Silver Member

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    no he didn't say nothing or implied ether
    all that he said was that he will be in tow and we can do FTF
    so i say that i need to check if that i legal
    and the he said i wasn't aware of Texas law
    he ask i be wiling to ship so i do think wasn't a trap
    i will only ship fro FFL to FFL
     
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    FLIPPER 348 Bigfoot enthusiast enthusiast

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    Are you sure about that?? I've sold longuns FTF out of state several times. I think you need to do some research.
     
  14. sourdough44

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    Yes, even long guns need FFL when you cross state lines.
     
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    The last few posts has me a bit boggled. I've known about a Neighboring States Clause for a while, as a resident of ID I was still able to buy my Rem700 in OR. I can't tell if they're trying to prove or disprove this.
     
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    There is always a lot of confusion concerning this subject. Especially for people who live on the border in their state. For example, a friend of mine lives in Bristol Tennessee, about two blocks from Bristol Virginia. So I guess it would be illegal to purchase a gun from his neighbor.

    I think that it is common to sell and buy across state lines. Probably not a law that is strictly enforced. I wouldnt take any chances myself though!
     
  17. mad.gunsmith

    mad.gunsmith NRA and GSSF Life Member Silver Member

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    In September <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:smarttags" /><st1:State><st1:place>Texas</st1:place></st1:State> change the low for long guns it was only Neighboring States Clause. And change to be in line with ATF this is only long guns<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
    Now I'm non sure if is from only FFL or can be <st1:stockticker>FTF</st1:stockticker> too.<o:p></o:p>
    <o:p></o:p>
    The main question was if a LEO has especial exception and the answer is NO <o:p></o:p>
    <o:p></o:p>
     
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    Fed Five Oh NRA Member

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    His research is fine. You on the other hand, have committed a federal felony several times.
     
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    In TN, I think it is legal to buy/sell a long gun FTF to/from any state that shares a border with TN. I don't know if there are any restrictions on ARs or AKs and such. (And no, i don't think ARs and AKs are any different than a mini-14 or BAR and such.:tongueout:)

    However, I did NOT stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night, SO check your local laws before trusting my words.:supergrin:

    ked:wavey:
     
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    Unfortunately the interstate arms trafficing laws are federal and not on a state by state basis. The only way you can legally by a long gun out of state is through a dealer unless you are C&R licensed and the gun is C&R eligible. Handguns must be sent from a FFL holder in the sellers state to an FFL holder in the buyers state unless it's a C&R. I'm not saying it can't be done. It's just not legal. I'd hate to see anyone get in trouble so I will keep repeating myself if neccesary. Also, I would not admit to multiple felonies on a message board. Just because you can buy an eight ball down at the corner doesn't mean it's legal, or that you should brag about it. I understand that a lot of laws are outdated, misleading, confusing or just plain silly, but ignorance of them will lead you to a lot of trouble eventually. Here's a nice little link. http://www.atf.gov/publications/download/p/atf-p-5300-4.pdf Keep you noses clean!:cool: