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Discussion in 'GSSF' started by mad.gunsmith, Jan 4, 2010.
is selling FTF to LEO from out of state legal?
It is illegal unless the transfer is made through a FFL.
Nope, not legal unless done through an FFL.
a rifle would be ok to most other states
Thank you I was 99% sure but the LEO part made doubt <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o></o>
It is not legal to transfer FTF. You can accept payment FTF and then ship the weapon to an FFL in their home state.
LEO has no status with ATF.
Just curious, did he say.. "I'm a Cop so the rules don't apply to me" ?
Uh, no. That is interstate arms trafficing. Highly illegal. It's legal to buy a long gun in another state than your residence through a dealer. No handguns though. Cooky laws.......
no he didn't say nothing or implied ether
all that he said was that he will be in tow and we can do FTF
so i say that i need to check if that i legal
and the he said i wasn't aware of Texas law
he ask i be wiling to ship so i do think wasn't a trap
i will only ship fro FFL to FFL
Are you sure about that?? I've sold longuns FTF out of state several times. I think you need to do some research.
Yes, even long guns need FFL when you cross state lines.
The last few posts has me a bit boggled. I've known about a Neighboring States Clause for a while, as a resident of ID I was still able to buy my Rem700 in OR. I can't tell if they're trying to prove or disprove this.
There is always a lot of confusion concerning this subject. Especially for people who live on the border in their state. For example, a friend of mine lives in Bristol Tennessee, about two blocks from Bristol Virginia. So I guess it would be illegal to purchase a gun from his neighbor.
I think that it is common to sell and buy across state lines. Probably not a law that is strictly enforced. I wouldnt take any chances myself though!
In September <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comffice:smarttags" /><st1:State><st1lace>Texas</st1lace></st1:State> change the low for long guns it was only Neighboring States Clause. And change to be in line with ATF this is only long guns<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice" /><o></o>
Now I'm non sure if is from only FFL or can be <st1:stockticker>FTF</st1:stockticker> too.<o></o>
The main question was if a LEO has especial exception and the answer is NO <o></o>
His research is fine. You on the other hand, have committed a federal felony several times.
In TN, I think it is legal to buy/sell a long gun FTF to/from any state that shares a border with TN. I don't know if there are any restrictions on ARs or AKs and such. (And no, i don't think ARs and AKs are any different than a mini-14 or BAR and such.)
However, I did NOT stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night, SO check your local laws before trusting my words.
Unfortunately the interstate arms trafficing laws are federal and not on a state by state basis. The only way you can legally by a long gun out of state is through a dealer unless you are C&R licensed and the gun is C&R eligible. Handguns must be sent from a FFL holder in the sellers state to an FFL holder in the buyers state unless it's a C&R. I'm not saying it can't be done. It's just not legal. I'd hate to see anyone get in trouble so I will keep repeating myself if neccesary. Also, I would not admit to multiple felonies on a message board. Just because you can buy an eight ball down at the corner doesn't mean it's legal, or that you should brag about it. I understand that a lot of laws are outdated, misleading, confusing or just plain silly, but ignorance of them will lead you to a lot of trouble eventually. Here's a nice little link. http://www.atf.gov/publications/download/p/atf-p-5300-4.pdf Keep you noses clean!