Santiago, Isabela PNP SWAT with AK 47s
One of best-armed PNP units may be in Isabela
By Villamor Visaya
Inquirer
Last updated 05:26am (Mla time) 07/19/2006
Published on Page A1 of the July 19, 2006 issue of the Philippine Daily Inquirer
SANTIAGO CITY, Isabela -- With their latest acquisition of at least 96 high-powered firearms, including 20 AK-47 assault rifles, the 135-strong city police force may be one of the best armed law enforcement units in the country today.
The guns, worth P2.8 million, were purchased and donated to the police force by the city government, led by Mayor Amelita Navarro, amid charges by her political rivals that the transactions were railroaded in a special session of the city council.
In Quezon City, Camp Crame officials welcomed the donation yesterday but quickly added that their arsenal did not include the AK-47, an assault rifle created by Russian Mikhail Kalashnikov in the 1940s and the favorite weapon of the communists in the Vietnam War.
We do not issue AK-47s. We do not have bullets for AK-47s [in storage]. Thats the problem, said Chief Superintendent Prudencio Regis, deputy chief of the PNP Directorate for Logistics.
The rifle can fire 600 rounds a minute (10 bullets per second) and can kill a person 1.5 km away, according to Janes Guns Recognition Guide. Its magazine capacity is 30 rounds and its cartridge is wider than those of other high-powered weapons.
Regis said he would appreciate it if local governments, before donating firearms, coordinated with his office or the local logistics unit so they could be advised on what weapons to buy.
Representative Anthony Miranda and Vice Mayor Armando Tan have asked Camp Crame officials to reject the donation, alleging illegal and unlawful circumstances in getting the city councils approval for the deal.
The mayor dismissed her rivals claims as baseless. She told the Inquirer that the guns were bought at most affordable prices.
Unfazed by the complaint, Navarro turned over on Monday the AK-47 assault rifles worth P900,000, two Rock Island armory HP sniper rifles worth P160,000 and four Federal sub-machine pistols worth P250,000 to the Special Weapons and Tactics (SWAT) unit and noncommissioned policemen here.
Navarro also issued 70 pistols worth P1,413,550 for 70 policemen.
Police morale
The majority of the city council members approved the resolution to buy and donate the firearms, saying that adequately armed and equipped officers will increase the morale of the police force and such will redound to the benefit of the residents.
For the past months, the city has been experiencing a series of multimillion-peso robberies and car thefts.
But Vice Mayor Tan said the gun purchase came on the heels of the local governments austerity measures and that the funds should have been used for social and infrastructure projects.
Will she arm the police or her private army? I do not know who will benefit from the [gun purchase]. She should have allotted that money for the communication and transport facilities for policemen. That is a better option, he said.
Senior Police Officer 4 Loriel Mamaclay, SWAT team leader, said the guns would be used to fight criminality as only 35 of the 135 city policemen had side arms issued by the Philippine National Police.
Almost all of our noncommissioned officers have not been issued firearms so we welcome these issuances, he said.
Senior Supt. Rolando Diaz, city police chief, said he was happy over the donation as he voiced confidence that the police could now fight robbers and other criminals.
Napolcom guidelines
Although the purchase of ammunition has been decentralized -- meaning each regional police unit can buy bullets as it sees fit -- Regis said the National Police Commission (Napolcom) had already specified what firearms and bullets to purchase.
If the PNP regional office buys AK-47 bullets for the Santiago police, it might be buying equipment not specified either by the Napolcom or the PNP, the official said.
For the PNP to buy these bullets, the use of the AK-47 would have to be approved by Camp Crame and Napolcom and must be subjected to testing and evaluation, Regis said.
Senior Supt. Job Antonio, chief of the logistics offices supply management division, surmised that the AK-47 rifles were imported. Russia and China were among the countries that produce it, he said.
The logistics officers agreed that an AK-47 was cheaper than other high-powered firearms, such as the Bushmaster, which could cost up to P100,000 each.
Prices of AK-47s being sold on the Internet range from $500 to $1,500, depending on the rifles variant and accessories. With reports from Luige A. del Puerto in Manila and Cyril L. Bonabente, PDI Research
By Villamor Visaya
Inquirer
Last updated 05:26am (Mla time) 07/19/2006
Published on Page A1 of the July 19, 2006 issue of the Philippine Daily Inquirer
SANTIAGO CITY, Isabela -- With their latest acquisition of at least 96 high-powered firearms, including 20 AK-47 assault rifles, the 135-strong city police force may be one of the best armed law enforcement units in the country today.
The guns, worth P2.8 million, were purchased and donated to the police force by the city government, led by Mayor Amelita Navarro, amid charges by her political rivals that the transactions were railroaded in a special session of the city council.
In Quezon City, Camp Crame officials welcomed the donation yesterday but quickly added that their arsenal did not include the AK-47, an assault rifle created by Russian Mikhail Kalashnikov in the 1940s and the favorite weapon of the communists in the Vietnam War.
We do not issue AK-47s. We do not have bullets for AK-47s [in storage]. Thats the problem, said Chief Superintendent Prudencio Regis, deputy chief of the PNP Directorate for Logistics.
The rifle can fire 600 rounds a minute (10 bullets per second) and can kill a person 1.5 km away, according to Janes Guns Recognition Guide. Its magazine capacity is 30 rounds and its cartridge is wider than those of other high-powered weapons.
Regis said he would appreciate it if local governments, before donating firearms, coordinated with his office or the local logistics unit so they could be advised on what weapons to buy.
Representative Anthony Miranda and Vice Mayor Armando Tan have asked Camp Crame officials to reject the donation, alleging illegal and unlawful circumstances in getting the city councils approval for the deal.
The mayor dismissed her rivals claims as baseless. She told the Inquirer that the guns were bought at most affordable prices.
Unfazed by the complaint, Navarro turned over on Monday the AK-47 assault rifles worth P900,000, two Rock Island armory HP sniper rifles worth P160,000 and four Federal sub-machine pistols worth P250,000 to the Special Weapons and Tactics (SWAT) unit and noncommissioned policemen here.
Navarro also issued 70 pistols worth P1,413,550 for 70 policemen.
Police morale
The majority of the city council members approved the resolution to buy and donate the firearms, saying that adequately armed and equipped officers will increase the morale of the police force and such will redound to the benefit of the residents.
For the past months, the city has been experiencing a series of multimillion-peso robberies and car thefts.
But Vice Mayor Tan said the gun purchase came on the heels of the local governments austerity measures and that the funds should have been used for social and infrastructure projects.
Will she arm the police or her private army? I do not know who will benefit from the [gun purchase]. She should have allotted that money for the communication and transport facilities for policemen. That is a better option, he said.
Senior Police Officer 4 Loriel Mamaclay, SWAT team leader, said the guns would be used to fight criminality as only 35 of the 135 city policemen had side arms issued by the Philippine National Police.
Almost all of our noncommissioned officers have not been issued firearms so we welcome these issuances, he said.
Senior Supt. Rolando Diaz, city police chief, said he was happy over the donation as he voiced confidence that the police could now fight robbers and other criminals.
Napolcom guidelines
Although the purchase of ammunition has been decentralized -- meaning each regional police unit can buy bullets as it sees fit -- Regis said the National Police Commission (Napolcom) had already specified what firearms and bullets to purchase.
If the PNP regional office buys AK-47 bullets for the Santiago police, it might be buying equipment not specified either by the Napolcom or the PNP, the official said.
For the PNP to buy these bullets, the use of the AK-47 would have to be approved by Camp Crame and Napolcom and must be subjected to testing and evaluation, Regis said.
Senior Supt. Job Antonio, chief of the logistics offices supply management division, surmised that the AK-47 rifles were imported. Russia and China were among the countries that produce it, he said.
The logistics officers agreed that an AK-47 was cheaper than other high-powered firearms, such as the Bushmaster, which could cost up to P100,000 each.
Prices of AK-47s being sold on the Internet range from $500 to $1,500, depending on the rifles variant and accessories. With reports from Luige A. del Puerto in Manila and Cyril L. Bonabente, PDI Research
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Here are some AK distributors in the US:
www.arsenalinc.com
www.centuryarms.com
www.vectorarms.com
www.atlanticfirearms.com
www.aimsurplus.com
http://www.centuryarms.com/Century/home.htm
www.robarm.com
prices go to about $299 for a WASR.
www.arsenalinc.com
www.centuryarms.com
www.vectorarms.com
www.atlanticfirearms.com
www.aimsurplus.com
http://www.centuryarms.com/Century/home.htm
www.robarm.com
prices go to about $299 for a WASR.
Kabayan madali lang gumagawa ng ak 47 and other variants from parts kit at gauge16 na plantsadong yero.
One of our gun club member made one in his garage and cost him $200. This website have some info and blue print www.homegunsmith.com .Maiba ako....Oo nga may AK47 na sila at ang poooogi na ng dating. E ano naman kaya ang gagawin nila pag naubusan na sila ng bala during an encouter? Iyan ngayon ang problema, ano gagamitin nila......mais or mungo!:freak: Kung sa bagay si "Hello Garci" nga nung nagtago, yung mga alalay nya lahat naka AK-47 at panay bago pa!! I even remember when "Ka Roger" was asked during an interview why they are not carrying an AK-47. He said " E kung napa-encounter kami at tumagal ang laban saan kami kukuha ng bala....sa china?! Dito na lang ako sa M-16 may supply pa kami galing sa camp Crame.:freak: :supergrin: ......Buti pa sya nag-iisip.:supergrin:
One of our gun club member made one in his garage and cost him $200. This website have some info and blue print www.homegunsmith.com .Maiba ako....Oo nga may AK47 na sila at ang poooogi na ng dating. E ano naman kaya ang gagawin nila pag naubusan na sila ng bala during an encouter? Iyan ngayon ang problema, ano gagamitin nila......mais or mungo!:freak: Kung sa bagay si "Hello Garci" nga nung nagtago, yung mga alalay nya lahat naka AK-47 at panay bago pa!! I even remember when "Ka Roger" was asked during an interview why they are not carrying an AK-47. He said " E kung napa-encounter kami at tumagal ang laban saan kami kukuha ng bala....sa china?! Dito na lang ako sa M-16 may supply pa kami galing sa camp Crame.:freak: :supergrin: ......Buti pa sya nag-iisip.:supergrin:
Mikol, unfortunately, high powered rifles are still restricted to Police and Military personnel only at the moment unless the government changes its stand on high powered firearms ownership.
cebuboy, the AK-2000 is the Chinese export variant of the Type 56 AK clone and is chambered for the 5.56mm. It was produced primarily for export to NATO countries and their allies and/or friends like the Philippines. Walang shortage ng bala pang :50cal:
cebuboy, the AK-2000 is the Chinese export variant of the Type 56 AK clone and is chambered for the 5.56mm. It was produced primarily for export to NATO countries and their allies and/or friends like the Philippines. Walang shortage ng bala pang :50cal:
Deenoh, do you also sell SKS and SKS-D (the SKS where you could use AK magazines)? I've seen some Norinco SKS-Ds sold by P&D Enterprises www.p-d-ent.com and they are nicely built.
Fellow BOGs, here's a website for SKS info: http://www.yooperj.com/
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sir isuzu ok ung guns store ah
hanep sana ganyan din sa pinas anu. dami display and ang damidami guns
san un sir isuzu
nice store
hanep sana ganyan din sa pinas anu. dami display and ang damidami guns
san un sir isuzu
nice store
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sir isuzu ok ung guns store ah
hanep sana ganyan din sa pinas anu. dami display and ang damidami guns
san un sir isuzu
nice store
hanep sana ganyan din sa pinas anu. dami display and ang damidami guns
san un sir isuzu
nice store
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tama kau mga sirs the local police realy needs support from the LGU's
kelangan lang mayos guidelines para di magamit at di sunud sunuran sa mga politiko (utang na loob baga)
2nd alam ko di pa authorize ang AK47 sa law enforcement ntn me specs sila eh. but kung donation exempted nga siguro.
according to some infos sa net highpowered ak47 are less accurate than the 5.56 ntn and mas mabigat sya dalhin. sana lang me proper training sila dito kasi malaki chance na magoverpenetrate slugs and me madamay na civilian. lalu na sa mga citys. ok lng siguro for mountain encounters but not in the city
but well congrats sa me projects nito job well done sana lahat ng LGU's tulungan kapulisan ntn ng walang kapalit na hinihingi . . peace
another concern is bullets talga ...
wag nalng gamitin sa inuman at birthdeyan ha. parang di sayang bala.
kelangan lang mayos guidelines para di magamit at di sunud sunuran sa mga politiko (utang na loob baga)
2nd alam ko di pa authorize ang AK47 sa law enforcement ntn me specs sila eh. but kung donation exempted nga siguro.
according to some infos sa net highpowered ak47 are less accurate than the 5.56 ntn and mas mabigat sya dalhin. sana lang me proper training sila dito kasi malaki chance na magoverpenetrate slugs and me madamay na civilian. lalu na sa mga citys. ok lng siguro for mountain encounters but not in the city
but well congrats sa me projects nito job well done sana lahat ng LGU's tulungan kapulisan ntn ng walang kapalit na hinihingi . . peace
another concern is bullets talga ...
wag nalng gamitin sa inuman at birthdeyan ha. parang di sayang bala.
sa dec. paku pwede maka uli bro. :supergrin:Originally posted by cebuboy
bai mikol, uli na dri. you can see an ak in action
pero murag barato ra gyud na price sa unit ni deenoh which is 36k.
about the ak, mao lagi kuno lisud ang bala.
about my sam boomer pwede pa kuno maau ingon ako best friend na memebr sa MIG. ilisanan lng kuno ug mga internal parts. i'll change it to premium parts na nig uli naku puhon pra usa nlg gasto.
btw nig-uli naku puhon i'll try to put my pasalubong for you, eric & karlon in a separate box pra dili ma ambush sa mga relatives sako wife.:supergrin:
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