San Francisco Shuns Retired USS Iowa

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  1. RENEA

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    What do you expect from liberal San Fransicko?

    San Francisco Shuns Retired USS Iowa By BRIAN SKOLOFF, Associated Press Writer
    2 hours, 53 minutes ago



    The USS Iowa joined in battles from World War II to Korea to the Persian Gulf. It carried President Franklin Roosevelt home from the Teheran conference of allied leaders, and four decades later, suffered one of the nation's most deadly military accidents.

    Veterans groups and history buffs had hoped that tourists in San Francisco could walk the same teak decks where sailors dodged Japanese machine-gun fire and fired 16-inch guns that helped win battles across the South Pacific.

    Instead, it appears that the retired battleship is headed about 80 miles inland, to Stockton, a gritty agricultural port town on the San Joaquin River and home of California's annual asparagus festival.

    Sen. Dianne Feinstein (news, bio, voting record), D-Calif., a former San Francisco mayor, helped secure $3 million to tow the Iowa from Rhode Island to the Bay Area in 2001 in hopes of making touristy Fisherman's Wharf its new home.

    But city supervisors voted 8-3 last month to oppose taking in the ship, citing local opposition to the Iraq war and the military's stance on gays, among other things.

    "If I was going to commit any kind of money in recognition of war, then it should be toward peace, given what our war is in Iraq right now," Supervisor Ross Mirkarimi said.

    Feinstein called it a "very petty decision."

    "This isn't the San Francisco that I've known and loved and grew up in and was born in," Feinstein said.

    San Francisco's maritime museum already has one military vessel — the USS Pampanito, an attack submarine that sank six Japanese ships during World War II and has about 110,000 visitors a year.

    Officials in Stockton couldn't be happier. They've offered a dock on the river, a 90,000-square-foot waterfront building and a parking area, and hope to attract at least 125,000 annual visitors.

    After the Korean war, the Iowa was decommissioned and placed in reserve in a Philadelphia shipyard for three decades. In 1988, it was recalled to duty escorting oil supply ships safely in and out danger in the Persian Gulf. In 1989, 47 sailors were killed in an explosion that tore through a gun turret during a training exercise.

    The warship, decommissioned by the Navy in 1990, is currently anchored with a mothballed fleet in Suisun Bay, near the mouth of the San Joaquin-Sacramento River Delta.

    San Francisco's rejection of such a storied battleship is a slap in the nation's face, said Douglass Wilhoit, head of Stockton's Chamber of Commerce.

    "We're lucky our men and women have sacrificed their lives ... to protect our freedom," Wilhoit said. "Wherever you stand on the war in Iraq ... you shouldn't make a decision based on philosophy."

    Rep. Richard W. Pombo, R-Calif., has sponsored legislation authorizing the ship's permanent move to Stockton. Feinstein has countered with a bill to open bidding to any California city.

    The two versions will have to be reconciled by a House-Senate conference committee considering the Pentagon spending bill.
     
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    LOL... exactly what I was thinking SMSTRICK.
     
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    What he said! ;f ;z
     
  5. SCmasterblaster

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    The military should move entirely out of the Bay area. Move all the functions to San Diego.

    My shipmate GMCS Reginald Ziegler gave his life in the turret accident on BB-61. His name is DISHONORED by these SF politicians.
     
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    Hey San Fran #%&(*%@!-;Q
     
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    Sorry otasan, it is dishonorable...:(
     
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    What a shame all the Navy veterans who visit SF will not have the chance to pay their respects to the Iowa. Damn shame.
     
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    I would not want this ship of Honor soiled by being placed in a city of amoral, antiamerican pigs. One day SF will fall into the sea and I shall be one that does not shed a tear or rush to help those who live there.
     
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    What d'ya expect, you hysterical sycophant?

    My goodness... if the previous San Francisco spawned her values then we'd all better look out for that generation of Bay Area toads currently occupying council seats that have bigger aspirations down the road.
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    Look how she structures her statement...wouldn't most say, "This isn't the San Francisco I was born in, grew up in..."?

    It is like the "born in" is referring to her politcal "birth" those many years ago...;P ;P


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    I love the references to Feinsien. Former mayor of Sodom ? Gamora ?...No,...I think it WAS San Francisco....Well,.anyway,...she came very close to totally destroying the " Night Stalker " Richard Ramirez case , due to her jumping up in front of a T.V. and disclosing secret evidence and information in the case while on a rant,..the serial killer tossed all of the evidence that she mentioned over the Golden Gate Bridge.....Another point to serve within the legacy of the woman, equally served with the 1994 Assault Weapons Ban.
     
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    they left a long time ago....
     
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    I'd fogotten about that near fiasco SMSTRICK ;P ;P .

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    I am so glad that that I could be of service.... As far as I can see, she has done more " FOR CRIME " than any other senator in this country !....But ,...on the contrary,....I am also grateful that her need for publicity did not result in more brutal sodomizations, rapes, beatings, tortures and killings, due to her carelessness and liberal minded blind stupidity...God Bless !! :)
     
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    True, so unfortunately true...:(
     
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    I was fortunate enough to have spent two weeks floating aboard the Iowa when I was in the Navy. Just happened to be one month before the tragic explosion in gun turret two. I got a really nice tour of that area by one of the sailors who died in the explosion. Man did that hit home.

    I think it's a positive thing that the Iowa is not docked in San Franfreak-o. They could find a better home than Commiefornia in general anyway.

    Those bay area fruit cakes don't deserve to have a great ship like the Iowa grace their shores.
     
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    They should sail her over to Texas. She'd look real nice next to the U.S.S. Texas.
     
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