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Samurai Sword from Japan?

Discussion in 'Band of Glockers' started by PMMA97, Mar 10, 2006.

  1. PMMA97

    PMMA97 TagaBundok

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    I have a senior who is coming from Japan for a vacation. Is there any way that he could bring his collector item samurai sword to the Philippines? Thanks for the help guys.

    Are there any local shops that sells authentic Japanese made samurais?
     
  2. bikethief

    bikethief itchy trigger

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    As long as he checks it in i think ok lang. Medyo mahirap hand carry 'yun!..... unless you're a ninja.
     

  3. PMMA97

    PMMA97 TagaBundok

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    ;z Thanks. Natawa tuloy ako kaka imagine a ninja going through Philippine Customs ;f
     
  4. mikey177

    mikey177 Remember

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    Hey, Uma Thurman did it in Kill Bill Vol. 1 ;f

    Seriously though, maybe you could inquire with the airline or your local Bureau of Customs official to be on the safe side.
     
  5. s0nny_g17

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    maybe in japan its legal or maybe if you are uma thurman and you are making a movie
    hehehe

    i dont think its possible to hand carry a samurai because it is considered lethal and anything lethal is not allowed to carry i guess

    kahit nga ata kitchen knife hinde rin pwede e

    minsan nga yung friend ko meron sya dala taco bilyar parang ayaw na sya pasakayin plane what more kung samurai

    mas safe siguro kung fedex na lang
     
  6. wingz

    wingz speed not power

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    PMMA97,

    is it a genuine katana(samurai to us fils.) or just a replica? after what happened in 911, i think he'll have a hard time carrying it with him on his return here. i myself came home from japan last year 2k and also brought home a short replica. but i have it delivered here in the philippines by paying a door to door service there one week before my flight. the fee was 20k yen (8k pesos) then, for a box sized more or less, 3'x3'. i also included some airguns and 1:1 scaled-real looking steel model gun toys which were all banned here at the airport if you're going to bring it home. a month after i arrived, the package followed (it was shipped) containing the katana, and all the toy guns (including a Colt XM177E2!). all was intact, walang nabawas sa laman. so IMO your senior can do the same to avoid the hassles of persuading some custom officials there in japan, lalo na dito sa atin. marami naman siyang macocontact na door to door companies don lalo na kung may mga kailala siyang filipinos. just my opinion.

    - about genuine japanese made katanas being sold here, swerte na siguro kung meron pa, kasi sa japan, these are very expensive and sometimes priceless pa nga lalo na yung mga antiques.
     
  7. Allegra

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    i have a hattori hanzo , pero it's priceless
     
  8. PMMA97

    PMMA97 TagaBundok

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    PM sent Sir.
     
  9. jasonub

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    i have Obi wan's sword;f can cut through any katana;f
     
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  11. horge

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    9MX Rei!

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    whats a hattori hanzo?

    pmma,

    he should be able to check it in,ibox lang niya. though i remember reading somewhere that he should get a permit in japan.
     
  13. Allegra

    Allegra

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    a swordsmith supreme also cooks
    you'll taste his blade if you cross the Deadly Viper Assasination Squad
     
  14. apoy

    apoy 1337

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    A Hattori Hanzo can be like a Gucci bag or a Louis Vuitton pants. Where the name of the maker is associated with the craft. As for Hattori Hanzo, it is called Hattori Hanzo steel or katana.

    Who is Hattori Hanzo?
    For more reading
     
  15. wingz

    wingz speed not power

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    PMMA97,

    PM replied
     
  16. Allegra

    Allegra

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    so there really was hanzo steel....I thought they made it up because it sounds cool
     
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    horge -=-=-=-=- Lifetime Member

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    No, and no.
    Hattori Hanzo (Masanari) existed, but he didn't make swords,
    nor are a subset of swords historically associated with his name,
    except maybe his personal possessions.

    Your offered google link should have sufficed, even with the
    usual share of online BS garbage (from wikipedia on out).

    Masanari (posthumously, Sainen) was a ferocious warrior loyal to
    Tokugawa Ieyasu*, in the latter half of the 16th century.
    He led a small but effective force of nonconventional troops,
    guarding the mountain passes into Edo (Tokugawa's base).

    This was twisted over the centuries into Masanari having led ninja,
    and of being a ninja himself (!!!). This legend made him a favorite
    among Japanese TV scriptwriters and moviemakers, later on with the
    anime crowd, who made even more fanciful stories about him. Such is
    the homage that Quentin Tarantino incorporated into Kill Bill:
    he named Sonny Chiba's swordsmith character 'Hattori Hanzo'.
    Chiba used to play Hanzo the ninja on TV!

    The "Hattori Hanzo swords" and "Hanzo steel" are movie spin-offs.
    Some have even been autographed by David Carradine.

    Heh. Give me a kampilan paired with a buckler any day.
    Better yet, a kampilan and a 1911.
    :)
    h



    ---
    *
    "Oda Nobunaga pounded the rice,
    Hideyoshi Toyotomi baked the dough,
    And Tokugawa Ieyasu ate the cake."


    -translated from a song taught to Japanese schoolchildren
     
  18. apoy

    apoy 1337

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    I cannot verify the 'facts' of my post nor on yours. I have not lived during those times and hence cannot personally comment on what is real and not. I only know the past from reading.
    On things I have no personal experience of, I do not say my opinion. I only compared the Gucci bags and Hanzo steel for it bears the maker's name on the craft.

    True, that there is little to none being said on Hanzo being a swordmaker. And maybe it is true that it is only a movie 'thing'

    How can I say that your facts are better than mine and vice versa. What I do is offer reading in form of search results so that the reader may weed out what he think is BS and formulate their own thoughts.

    Just a few things.
    This nonconventional troops that he led, what are they called?
    In the event that this so-called unconventional troops are called ninjas. Would you believe that the one that leads them to battle is a ninja too?

    Do you have links to verify that he is not a ninja himself?
    Some links does not say that he is a ninja but none I can find says he is not. Also if one is a leader of a 'ninja' troop would'nt only be logical that the one who leads is a ninja too?
    Can I see the links that you have read that lead you to this post?

    Wikipedia is open source. You can edit/add information if you please. You might want to cite your sources though.

    ====
    Ive just re-read the whole thread and... lumayo na sa usapan :) hehehe.
    Pis horge :)
     
  19. horge

    horge -=-=-=-=- Lifetime Member

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    Too Didymian a mindset to reconcile with your postings, IMO.
    But maybe that just makes you more ...remarkable.
    :)

    Reading what? Online, unattributed articles? Martial arts magazines?
    Upon what 'reading' did you base your postition that Hattori Hanzo
    was in any way historically connected to your "Hanzo steel'
    and/or "Hattori Hanzo swords"?

    You just GAVE an opinion there :) : that Hattori Hanzo was in any way
    historically or providentially connected to your "Hanzo steel' and/or
    "Hattori Hanzo swords", a la Gucci.

    FWIW, Gucci bags are named after the company founder, Guccio Gucci of
    Firenza. I beg you do a quick, easy search on where your 'Hanzo
    steel" comes from: who makes/made them, where and when.
    :)

    "Are your facts better than mine"?
    Well, uhmm... you have NO facts, so what's to compare?
    Besides, it's not "little to none". It is "none". Since you
    cannot possibly cite a proper ref to show Masanari WAS a swordmaker,
    then your claim, that this "Hanzo steel" has any historicity or
    connection to Masanari
    , is idle fantasy. Would you defend your
    claim via distended doubt, and require I defend mine via proof?

    I've already tried to help by pointing out your error,
    Do your own remedial homework! :)

    The Iga-bushi. In their time they were mountain folk probably
    unconscious of how they fought differently, and only historians have
    foisted any other 'label' onto them. Turnbull describes them as
    scouts/tripwires able to divert or slow down an invader via
    attack-retreat, but that too, is speculative.

    Highly-speculative digression, this.
    Masanari was formal bushi, to the degree that he had an annual
    stipend of 2,000 koku of rice, with additional rewards in later
    years. THAT much is a matter of record: in fact, those venerable
    financial records of the Tokugawas are one of the few contemporary
    documents on him. This has nothing to do with our dispute, that you
    claim "Hanzo steel" is historically attributable to Hattori Hanzo.

    Oh ko. This ninja angle is a distraction: my objection is to your
    claim that Hanzo was a swordmaker to associate swords with, like
    bags/shoes to Gucci.

    In any case, a visit to any decent library will get you nearly a
    dozen refrences on Feudal Japan, 1560's to 1600. ANY serious textbook
    dealing on Tokugawa's retreat behind the Iga mountains after
    Nobunaga's asassination should mention Masanari, and may provide
    further information. Those publications are copyright, and you won't
    likely find them on the web.

    Again: I've already done you a favor pointing out your error.
    Do your own homework from thereon.
    :)


    horge

    **edited for justification/alignment.
     
  20. kristiansen

    kristiansen Birdwatcher

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    my youngest kid has some friends namely,raphael,leonardo,michaelangelo and donatelo.he claims they are ninja.me thinks they are turtles.;f have a nice weekend guys!;c