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Discussion in 'GSSF' started by lethal tupperwa, May 4, 2004.

  1. lethal tupperwa

    lethal tupperwa

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    At a recent match I noticed a person on deck with the action closed.

    I called it to the attention of the RO and the pistol was made safe.

    Some of that persons friends seemed to think that it was funny for the RO to care about it.

    I did mention to them that the safety film said all actions open.
     
  2. Don At PC

    Don At PC Senior Member Millennium Member

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    Good call Leathal. It's clear in the Rules, item 70.10 but this just goes to show that some folks don't care to read the rules, watch the tape(or at least follow the rules). This is not IDPA or IPSC or Cowboy Action it's GSSF with a mix of experienced and first time shooters.

    Thanks for calling this to the RO's attention.
     

  3. driver8m3

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    not that i disagree with what lethal did, but gssf is different than most shooting sports, and i can understand someone holstering their gun with the action closed...after all, that's the way it's done everywhere else that i shoot.
     
  4. Wicked96SS

    Wicked96SS Typical Gun Nut Millennium Member

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    You need to follow the rules no matter what sport you shoot... but I think this GSSF rule is silly... with some of the holsters used today you have a potential for the gun to fall out if the action is open... it is definately NOT the way the holster was designed to carry the gun...

    But, rules are rules, and I think you did the right thing.
     
  5. Fireglock

    Fireglock Which is worse?

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    No "draws" required so a holster really isn't needed, a bag is the easy way to carry your gear at a GSSF match. :)
     
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    Wicked96SS Typical Gun Nut Millennium Member

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    That shows you how many GSSF matches I shoot... oops... ;J
     
  7. lethal tupperwa

    lethal tupperwa

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    If it is a newby with one up the pipe.

    If you normaly do it different come more often-you will get used to it.
     
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    To be fair, 70.20 (and other lit) recommends (not requires) a holster. Not sure which I'll eventually use since my leather belt slide will secure the pistol in either state. But let's not discount that the rules are encouraging holster use.

    Edited to add: To go back to original topic talking about an (under the rules) unsafe condition which was mitigated, it seems to me this is good for the competitor as well since may prevent someone from a DQ for unsafe practice, ja?
     
  9. Wicked96SS

    Wicked96SS Typical Gun Nut Millennium Member

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    I shoot IDPA and IPSC quite a bit. The guns remained holstered unless you are in the safe area, or you are about to shoot. Other than that, most of the time the gun is unloaded (verified by an RO) in your holster. Before a stage the RO tells you to "load and make ready"... you do so and then reholster. Then you shot the stage... when you are done he tells you to "unload and show clear"... you unload your gun, and reholster it.

    Unless, there are a couple of IDPA matches locally that are "hot" ranges. There the gun is loaded and holstered at all times unless you are shooting a stage. When you are done with a stage, the RO tells you to "top off" your pistol and holster it.

    Anyhow, I was confused, only shot one GSSF match, so I was confused on what I was talking about... ;)
     
  10. Fireglock

    Fireglock Which is worse?

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    Where are you going to wear the holsters for your second and third gun? Going to real crowded on your belt unless you're a "big guy". ;f

    No chance of you accidentally touching your firearm if it's in the bag. ;)
     
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    Mea culpa for the poor syntax; I meant which method, not which gun.:) Actually I'll probably go with my initial thoughts and just use the range bag and feel more comfortable for exactly the reasons you state. But the mea culpa doesn't apply to the language of 70.20 encouraging holster use at GSSF matches. Time for a rules edit, instead of making newbies to GSSF think they should have a holster to be really "doin' it right"?
     
  12. Fireglock

    Fireglock Which is worse?

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    Hey Wig,

    GSSF may encourage wearing a holster for just the reason of this thread, the gun is exposed and anybody can see if the action is open or closed.

    It's not practical with multiple Glocks and I don't care to have to have anything extra hanging on my belt. My Glocks are safer in the bag as well, especilly the Unlimited gun and scope when it's rainy or less than perfect weather. :)
     
  13. Glockrunner

    Glockrunner HOOYA DEEPSEA

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    I too, have corrected a couple shooters through the years about the slide back rule at GSSF matches and referred them to the safe area and then the video.

    As an IDPA shooter and SO, I have witnessed one new shooter come to the line with an already loaded firearm. With that in mine it surely comforts me to see the slide retracted on so many guns at on time.

    Most importantly though, I feel better knowing that those folks took the time to learn the safety practices pertaining to the match.
     
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    Thanx Fireglock for the insight, really. Just trying to get an idea as to accepted practice which (for my $$) ought to be the safest one. I don't like stuff hanging off me either; so I'm going to continue to practice like I'll compete. When done, the gun & mag are empty, striker down on empty chamber & gun goes in the bag. Takes semantics out of the picture. Thanks again. :)