S&W M&P 9c vs Sig P-250sc 9mm

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  1. Indy_Guy_77

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    Ain't that a mouth full?

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    They're stacked on top of each other...I promise!

    As you can see, these pistols are almost identical in their dimensions. If I had the standard magazine base plate on the M&P, they'd be even closer in size.

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    Good comparison pictures, thanks for posting them.
     

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    You're welcome!

    I hope to have a shooting review of the P250sc and the full-sized frame before too long.

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    If you used the standard baseplate on the M&P it would be shorter



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    holy cow.
    i bet that Sig has alot more muzzle flip than the M&P.
    that things bore axis is MASSIVELY HIGH!
    i had not noticed that before now.
    modular is cool, but not at the expense of comfort.
     
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    Yep, which is why I said:

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  7. SeeJohnLikeSig&Glock

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    bore axis and muzzle flip are not always related.

    the sig 229 which has a high bore axis shoots with a lot less muzzle flip than a glock23 which has a low bore axis
     
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    True...

    It's the "total package" of the firearm that needs taken into account.

    I AM apprehensive, though, because the little Sig doesn't seem conducive of a high grip.

    The full-sized frame has a nice beaver tail on it...
     
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    you said that they would be closer in size.

    but if you put the standard base plate on then they would not be closer in size they would be farther away in size with the M&P would be quite a bit shorter....


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    Both are nice feeling in the hands.
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    hate the horse hoof on the mag of the S/W.
     
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    Other supplied mag is flush.
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    Great pics , thanks . love to try out the 250sc in 40sw.
     
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    As others have mentioned Indy_Guy, very good comparison photos. The SIG 250sc obviously offers another size option for those who are interested in concealed carry.

    Length of the two guns are identical, and height is very close. Obviously, though, the SIG has an edge in width. It is rated as being 1.1 inches wide, compared to 1.2 inches for the M&P. Interestingly, though, the S&W has a 3.2 oz edge in empty weight, at 21.7 oz compared to 24.9 oz for the SIG 250sc.

    Ammo capacity is very close too. In 9mm, the S&W holds either 12 9mm or 10 .40 S&W in the mag. In comparison, the SIG holds 13 9mm ( one more than the M&Pc ) or 9 .40 S&W ( one less than what the M&Pc holds ).

    The Walther PPS is much thinner and lighter than the SIG 250sc, and would thus have an edge in concealability over it. But it achieves that by having only a single stack magazine that gives up a lot in ammo capacity: standard size magazine only holds 7 rounds in 9mm and 6 rounds of .40 S&W This SIG gives you more rounds to fight with.

    It is definitely a worthwhile option for folks to consider for concealed carry.

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    Most strange. I own and shoot both Glock and SIG handguns, and am confident that just the opposite is true. At least for me.

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    Actually, that is a BIG PLUS to have on the gun. I never use the short length S&W mag that came with my M&Pc, and always use one of my mags with that extension on it.

    And the reason why is that with that extension on the magazine, I can just manage to get a full grip on the handgun, without my little pinky finger dangling useless out in space. Getting a good grip is essential to good shooting, especially if you are using powerful self-defense ammo.

    Here is a close-up photo of me holding my M&Pc, to illustrate this.

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    Note that my little pinky finger is resting right against that little "horseshoe" extension. Without it there, your finger has no where to go.

    And to me, that is a real problem. One would have a tougher time getting a solid grip on this SIG.

    One nice edge that the M&P compact has is that it you can easily install the outstanding Crimson Trace Laser into the grip. No such laser product exists currently for this SIG 250sc.

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    the 250sc looks like a bodybuilder that only works on upper body. tiny little legs...
     
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    I have shot plenty of small autos. The pinky goes under the mag. No problem.
     
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    Sure, you can stick it anywhere you want, but that does make it less stable.
     
  20. DonGlock26

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    Indy Guy, thanks for the pics.

    I'm looking forward to putting the P250sc .45acp through its paces. I just wish Sig would release it.