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S&W 686 vs 19

Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by BrentC, Oct 26, 2013.

  1. BrentC

    BrentC

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    I have been looking for a good condition used 686 for a while. I saw a very good condition 19-5 for $750. Could someone give a short summary of what the difference between a 19 and a 686 is and is $750 a fair price for the 19-5?
     
  2. TBO

    TBO Why so serious? CLM

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    19 built to be light for carry. 686 is beefy/heavy build to stand up to a steady diet of magnum loads.
    If you intend to bang lots of mags, get 686. 19 great for carry, shooting. 38's and occasional mags.

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  3. Baba Louie

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    I'd say $750 is kinda high unless it is pristine w/ box/papers myself... and offer a $100 less, but you know your locale better than I and they aren't making them anymore.

    Barrel length? 2.5" (nice), 4" (sweet), 6"... (why?)

    19 = K frame
    686 = L frame
     
  4. Deaf Smith

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    K and L frames are much different.

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    Notice my S&W 66 on the left .vs. my 686 on the right. The frame of the L is thicker, forcing cone thicker, and even cylinder thicker even though both are 6 shot revolvers.

    Even in 2 1/2 form the 686 is rather heavy.

    Deaf
     
  5. bac1023

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    As others mentioned, the 19 has a smaller frame.
     
  6. Bruce M

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    The 19-5 version started in 1982 and the model change eliminated the pinned barrel and recessed cylinder. 19-6 started in 1988.
     
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    Yep, unfortunately, mine is a -6 model. I much prefer the pinned and recessed models.

    I have a no dash 66 to make up for it. ;)
     
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    $750.00 is too high. $550.00-$600.00 is more like it.
     
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    Yeah, there's no way in hell I'd pay $750 for a 19-5. If its was an older model that was pinned and recessed unfired with the box and papers, it could approach $650 to $700.

    $750 for a 19-5 is outrageous. I bought my 19-6 in like new condition last year for $400.
     
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    I wouldn't even pay that much.
     
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    I think this is dead on.
    I've got a 65-3 3" K frame.
    It's dreamy to carry.
    But less fun to shoot with full power magnums.

    If lots of Magnum Force is on the menu?
    I'd definitely recommend a 686.
     
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  12. byf43

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    Well said, sir!! :thumbsup:

    OP:
    I wouldn't pay over $500 for a pristine mdl 19. Actually, it would have to be new, in box, for that kind of $$$.
    (And this is from a big mdl 19 fan!!)
     
  13. Michael Rye

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    Oh, I dunno bac. For us wheel gun aficianados, K frame 357 magnums are pretty highly sought after. Mid 500 to low or mid 600 dollar range isn't really out of line.

    $750.00 is ridiculous, though.
     
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    The M19 is pretty common. I see them around here quite often (maybe once a month on average). Prices are normally under $500 even in great shape. K frames haven't really risen in value compared to the larger Smiths.

    The models that are more sought after are the pinned and recessed models. If a pinned and recessed model still unfired in box came up for sale, $600 to $700 sounds about right.

    There's really nothing too special about a 19-5. It's a great revolver, but certainly far from rare or in demand.
     
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    The 19's that sell for higher amounts are the pinned and recessed variety. They are the models with a little collector's value, not the -5.

    Collectors don't want them. Great shooters, but not really collectible.
     
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    I like the K-frame better than the L-frame. Lighter and more agile in the hand. And let's face it, most of us aren't competitive shooters who will send thousands of .357 Mag rounds down range.
     
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    Thanks for the feed back everyone. I will let this 19-5 go. I'm a big guy and the extra weight of the 686 would not bother me in the least so I think I will wait for a 686.
     
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    $750?

    I don't think used revolvers are going for that much. The last 19 I bought was about 10 years ago, for $270. The most I've ever paid for a S&W revolver was $500 for a 3" 686 CS1, about 5 years ago, but those are kind of collectible. In KY I can buy a Python for $750 (I have seen them for oless in the last 3-4 years) and S&W and other Colts are usually in the $350-500 range.
     
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    There is saying that some S&W collectors use: You can't pay too much, you can just pay too early. I am thinking $750 might be a bit early, by a year or three. But a couple years ago I would have said $750 was decades too early.
     
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    I think this is a good decision. For me, unless a spectacular deal comes along, I won't bother with a K frame chambered in 357mag.

    If a nice K frame chambered in 38spl comes my way, it would be difficult to resist that......:supergrin:

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