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Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by norton, Aug 13, 2020.
Out to the range this morning.
Here is my new 442-after firing about 50 rounds.
My 2 loads
148 gr HBWC (wadcutter) on left
170 Grain cast on the right.
Draw and rapid fire from 7 yards.
The first is the wadcutter bullet.
The circled hits are from my "test".
The cylinder release does bite after several dozen rounds.
I will continue to experiment with loads. I have a mold for a 105 grain cast bullet I will try out.
I know from shooting double action revolvers and single action with fixed sights you can change the POI by firing lighter or heavier bullets.
Hmm, never happens to me. Lock thumbs down
Buffalo Bore 20D hard cast wadcutters.
It seems to carry nicely. It feels even narrower then my Glock 43. I purchased a TX leather owb holster for it.
ID. A little blood on the new s/w means she is getting broken in. lol.
I'll check that out Chief. Thanks for the tip.
The absolute best ammo for a lightweight snubby is the Underwood 38 special polymer coated hardcast 150 grain full wadcutter. It sells for $13.50 a box of 20. Regular target wadcutters only produce about 600 fps out of a 1 7/8ths inch barrel, yet have proven to be fairly effective for defensive use. These are much better and yet the recoil is more manageable than any Plus+P 38 special load even with lighter weigh bullets.
It's a non-Plus+P load and it's advertised at 1000 fps/333 ft lbs but that's out of a 4 inch barrel. Out of teh 1 7/8ths inch barrel of a Smith and Wesson J-frame it's an honest 850 fps. Buffalo bore has an almost identical load but Buffalo Bore tends to be more expansive unless you live near a Cabelas and they can order it for you and save you the shipping.
Underwood is out of stock right now but you can give them your email address and they will notify you when it's available. Unfortunately, this ammo shortage isn't going to end until we re-elect Trump. It will only get worse if we elect Biden.
I often ccw a 442 in the summertime and like Underwood wad-cutters in it.
I'm aware of this load and it sure looks interesting as a self-defense round for short barrel revolvers. I have plenty of the Buffalo Bore hard cast wadcutters on hand, and, as these aren't "plinking" rounds, never had the need to shoot or experiment further with such ammo.
I load mine with Federal +P 130gr HST
One fun-to-shoot revolver
I've used and tested both the Buffalo Bore and the underwood and both had nearly identical chronograph reading and both were equally accurate. I decided to stick with the Underwood because it's a little over a half hour drive each way to the Cabelas which is the only way I can save on shipping costs which are more for the Buffalo Bore. But the money I saved was about the same as the cost of the gas it took to drive there and back.
It's my carry ammo and I practice with regular target wadcutters but when I get a new box, I load 5, practice with 10, then keep the the five for use in a speed strip. And as I do with all my carry ammo, I occasionally fire the rounds that I have in the gun so that I can refresh it with new ammo every 6 months or so.
I still have a few boxes on hand to get me through the ammo shortage and If I have to I can work up a reload that come pretty close. At first, the Underwood ammo was not powder coated, but the hardcast bullets did not lead my barrel in the slightest. The Buffalo bore ammo didn't used to be powder coated either, and I don't know if it is now.
I asked Mr. Ayoob this very question recently-
Superb choice for regular concealed carry. Have had mine for decades, never a problem. Factory grips are lacking and may need upgrading. A good holster is a must. Speer Gold Dot is #1 choice for ammunition. Hornady Critical Defense is another good call.
Remington Golden Saber 125 grain +P
I love the grips on your 442. I’m using a set of Crimson Trace 405’s on mine.
Crimson Trace makes a really nice Laser grip for it.