Rust removal

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  1. Kiddo

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    What is the best way to remove rust on a blued firearm? Meron kasi konting rust sa may grip safety, MSH and around sa grip and on the serrations on my 1911 medyo sweaty kasi kamay ko eh. Thanks guys. :)
     
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    If the rust is only minor I just rubbed it away with soft cloth then apply oil. Kung sa may serration, try old tooth brush then apply oil too.

    Hope this helps.

    vega
     

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    For surface rust, just oil and wipe. Do it several times. Better if you have some penetrating oil. Don't use anything abrasive.
     
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    What kind of oil do you guys recommend i use? What if hindi matanggal ng oil+rub/toothbrush?
     
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    Any oil will do. You can even use "Singer" sew machine oil. Just soak for a while then wipe. If you still can't remove it, it is probably pitted already. Your alternatives then are: sanding or sand blastig it then re-blue or better yet hard chrome.
     
  6. Kiddo

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    How much would a chrome job cost? Is hard chrome = chrome? I see chromed firearms which have slides na parang mirror finish, meron din yung medyo dull ang chrome.
     
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    I don't know the cost of hard chrome. Yes, it is chrome like bumpers, etc but a lot more durable. It comes in different finishes and color, mirror, flat black, gray, etc.
     
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    What is the most durable (rust & wear resistant) type of hard chrome finish? Will the hard chroming process weaken the steel in any way?
     
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    I'm also interested in hard chroming, where would be a good place to go to for such a service? I've heard from a lot of people that my Jericho's finish isn't exactly top notch, so they all advise me to hard chrome instead.
     
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    Hard-chrome 3-4K
    Black hard-chrome 5-6k

    P.B. Dionisio along Roces, or Force-Sight in Cubao (Ali Mall).
    Other shops offer it too.

    Hard chrome hardens the surface, and the part itself.
    For some steel sections this can translate into brittleness
    and potential failure. It is a VERY involved topic.
     
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    horge, could you explain some more on the brittleness and possible failure part? How much of a risk is it to have a firearm hard chromed? Thanks. :)
     
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    Like I said, it is a very involved topic. ;g

    I'll just quote someone who knows a thing or two about it:
    Virgil Tripp -

    Lots and lots of other potential factors that Mr. Tripp didn't get into,
    (again, it is a very involved topic) but obviously, if the part is
    of robust thickness, the hydrogen-induced surface brittleness won't
    count for a large percentage of total stress-bearing section, and
    the poart remains stong enough.

    Unfortunately there are a lot of high-stress, thin section parts in a pistol
    --ang ibang mga slide pa lang, e, dejado na. E, meron pa nga'ng
    mas manipis na mga piyesa...


    But it's just a phenomenon to keep in mind. Depending on
    the part involved, it may (or far more likely may not) be a concern.
    As Mr. Tripp points out, mild nickel steels like 4140 tend to
    self-relieve over time.

    Bottom line, if the plater knows what he's doing, you'll be fine.
    I was, in effect, urging you to choose your plater carefully.


    :)
    horge
     
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    Thanks for the info sir horge! ;) I'm in Cagayan de Oro so I am not able to avail of the smithing services there in metro manila. We do have gunsmiths here who do hard chroming. What do I look or ask for to be able to ensure that the smith will do a good job?

    What is the most durable hard chrome finish for a firearm? I've seen pistols which have a dull hard chrome finish and some which have mirror like finish.
     
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    As with any other professional service:
    good references and (well-used/time-tested) samples of past work :)

    I don't think there's a significant difference durability-wise,
    between satin and polished hardchrome.

    Polished/'pimp-alicious'/'bling-y' hardchrome produces more glare,
    something that may or may not compromise target sighting.

    :)
     
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    Okay, thanks for the info again sir horge! :) I would prefer the satin over polished finish since I'm not that into bling-blings. ;f
     
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    For light rust removal, try some brass wool. It is like steel wool, but made of brass. Works really well.
     
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    Brass wool?
    I wish we had that stuff over here.
    No such luck :(
     
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    hi, newbie here, i recently bought a brand new S16.40 limited. it's the sterling finish one, that has two tone w it. upon receiving the unit, i was dispointed to see some scratches on the slide. i was thinking of refinishing it to make it scratch free. is chroming the way to do it?
     
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    How deep are the scratches? Maybe you can just buff it off. Try using turtle wax. I'm not kidding, try turtle wax.
     
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    clark: can you post a pic of your pistol?

    i haven't seen the new Para PXT models yet. Any difference with the old Para limited series?

    ultra fine steel wool is available at SM hardware section. its made in italy. Arix brand. i got 1 pack for 70 pesos. very good for polishing metal