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Discussion in 'Black Rifle Forum' started by patman, Sep 24, 2009.
What's the story on these?Looks interesting and I've always liked Rugers.
Yeh, me too! I really like the look of the new Rugers. I'm thinking really hard about buying one. Best price I've seen so far was $1,350.00. I'm afraid if I wait too long (assuming the Dems will try to pass new gun control legislation), there will be none to buy!
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Good write up on it in the Rifelman, looks Bad A** to me!
You should definitely buy one before Hussein takes away your right to own a gun. It is well known and generally agreed upon around these parts that piston driven AR's are far superior to their DI bretheren. They not only run far cleaner, cooler and have less wear and tear but are guaranteed to make you a better shot. There is less recoil and followup shots are much easier to place on target quickly. Ruger is considered by many to be the best manufacturer of quality AR type rifles for at least 20 years now. I would have no problem in advising you to trust your life to one of these fine weapons.
I may have to dump some firearms to fund one.I never knew Ruger made AR type rifles.I figured I'd get some responses from the Ruger haters around here.
Ruger has been making ARs for 20 years? I didn't know that! My new Rifleman magazine said something like "...this was Ruger's intro into the AR market.." If your talking about the Ranch Rifles, I too have heard only good things about them.
The ranch rifles are very dependable but accuracy is a little disappointing.I had a mini-14.Sweet rifle but it just didn't hold a very good group.They more closely resemble an M-14 than an AR though.
If you are going to spend $1400, I suggest you go through this entire thread on the Ruger SR556: http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?t=32141
The reviews aren't so good. First release of any gun to join a popular market through playing catch up is never a good thing.
"Let's just say the operating system has issues that I can't go into".
There's iron clad evidence.Glad I read that.
Don't really like the looks of the system. Still has an AR charge handle, the barrel isn't floated, and the piston isn't attached to the bolt, but rather slams into it to push it back. Looks like they'd run hot and suffer from the dreaded carrier tilt. Could be wrong, but I'll pass.
When I finally drop money on a non-AK gas piston rifle I'll be won't be a piston AR, but something built for it from the ground up.
Robinson XCR has served me well. No Ruger for me after Bill sold us out to the anti-gun crowd. Perhaps the now public company will wise up and change their name, or start a division without "Ruger" in the name...
I'll stick with my FN/FNC and my two VZ 58 Imports with real Czech forged receivers not made in America clones.
First off Ruger has never made an AR or AR related product.
Second they still don't, they simply retagged someone else's rifle with their name. I believe these are made entirely with aftermarket and custom shop parts like Troy and CAA.
Third Piston driven AR's have yet to be proven to be more reliable than DI AR's. they do run cooler, but there have been piston breakages and other problems due to the fact the platform simply wasn't designed to accomodate a piston.
Fourth I doubt the recoil would be noticeably different, more than likely you would just eliminate the quiet twang of the recoil buffer.
Actually, several studies have shown the reliability of a gas-piston system in regards to the maintenance required with a DI system. Also, plenty of respected individuals have noted the difference in recoil between DI vs GPU.
If you like the DI platform, by all means carry your argument, but do it where the issue is actually relevant (i.e. combat accuracy vs. match accuracy, carrier tilt, etc.).
Yes, when Eugene Stoner originally developed the system, it was meant to be a gas operated rifle rather than a piston operated rifle. That being said, he developed the platform to be a 20" rifle system too. By your suggestion, carbines, sbr's, and midlength's shouldn't be considered either.
In the end, both systems have their pros and cons, I hope that you would attest to this.
I don't know much, but I do know I like my SR556.
I have two DI guns and did have a Sig 556 (didn't care for it). The Ruger is heavier than an M4gery, but part of that weight is in the quad-rail hand-guards.
Mine has been flawless in performance, shows no adverse wear to the buffer tube from "carrier tilt" and is as accurate as I can shoot.
ARs have become the 1911 of rifles. Meaning there are too many brands/styles for most folks to have owned them all, but there are still a lot of fierce brand-snobs/loyalists who will insist one is junk, theirs pure gold.
I chose to find out first hand and I'm glad I did. YMMV, of course.
I own 7 DI AR15's and my SR-556 is my favorite AR of them all.
6 DI's, 1 is a 9mm, sorry.
The Dems need to do nothing. Simply signing of a UN treaty and guns are banned from private ownership. The President has that kind of power!
"I just don't understand why a man needs more than 10 rounds in a mag." But see here my Ranch Rifle doesn't have a pistol grip, or a colap. butstock, so it doesn't qualify as an assult weapon under the ban.
Now Ruger has an SR9 with 20 rounds, and an AR relabled under their name. No Ruger's in this house either.
I own Rugers.Always have,always will.AR's,as far as I can tell,suck.That is all I read on the forums any way.I'm just gonna buy as many SKS rifles as I can with the money I was gonna spend on an AR.Or maybe a couple AK's and a couple of SKS.Maybe some day some one will have something GOOD to say about an AR.Then I will buy one or two.
bill rugers been dead and gone for a long time now and the owners of ruger have taken the company in a totally different direction offering mini 14's with hi-cap 30 rd mags and collapsable stocks, the SR9 with 18 rd hi-cap mags and now a piston driven AR15 yet some gun owners are stuck in the past and dwelling on **** that happened decades ago. if bill ruger was still living or ruger was still practicing his ideaology then gun owners boycotting ruger products would be justified. i choose to support firearm manufacturers that are producing the products i want to buy.
with that said i'll pass on the 556 because i'd rather buy a SCAR, Keltec 308 BP or remington ACR.