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DJ Niner - that's the exact scope I ordered for mine. I've put that same optic on numerous guns over the years and have liked it immensely. Besides this .22, have it on probably four or five things from a CAR-15 to a break-open single shot carbine in .45 long colt. I put the newer version with the Pig Plex reticule (same scope just different reticule) on a .300bk AR, but actually prefer the simpler heavy duplex. Even bought one of my sons the nicer VX2 version of the same scope a few years ago.

Great little scope.
 

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DJ Niner - that's the exact scope I ordered for mine. I've put that same optic on numerous guns over the years and have liked it immensely. Besides this .22, have it on probably four or five things from a CAR-15 to a break-open single shot carbine in .45 long colt. I put the newer version with the Pig Plex reticule (same scope just different reticule) on a .300bk AR, but actually prefer the simpler heavy duplex. Even bought one of my sons the nicer VX2 version of the same scope a few years ago.

Great little scope.
Here I thought I was the only person on earth who owned a VX-Hog 1-4x! I bought one thinking that the reticle might be useful in certain non-pig-shooting situations too, but I've not yet looked-up the specs and tried to use it for drop/lead shooting. I finally decided that weird graphic on the turret cover had to go, so I ordered a set of plain black caps to replace the tattooed one.

I also own a couple of the basic models like the one in the photo (on a 10/22 and an AR right now), a similar-but-slightly-different Mark AR version (on another 10/22), and last year I splurged and bought one of the SP-dot versions (green illuminated dot at the center of the duplex reticle). I like and enjoy every darn one of them, and the basic shotgun/heavy-duplex version is my go-to scope for light/fast/handy carbines in any caliber, unless higher power is definitely needed (and it's usually not). Relatively inexpensive, bright/clear, light, low-profile, and solid as a rock. Great glass, I agree.
 

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Probably the biggest factor in the popularity of the 10/22 in the prepper community or elsewhere for that matter is the versatility of it. There are so many accessories, barrels, stocks and parts for it that you can make it into anything you want.

Put a sling and scope on it and you have a pretty good hunting rifle. Throw on a heavy barrel and a target stock and you have a target rifle. Folding stock or pistol grip stock, red dot sight and hi cap mag and it's a tactical rifle. Hell, just take the barrel band off and use a thumb screw for the stock and it takes down with one screw.
 

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I just started looking at the takedown version a couple days ago and one disappointment is that the stainless version apparently can't be had with threaded barrel; only the blue.

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Quake, I was looking at Ruger's product page for the 10/22 for another person, and it looks like there are many more threaded stainless takedown versions than just the one I have.

Here is a link and model numbers for the various takedown models in stainless steel that are threaded:

(Can be seen at http://www.ruger.com/products/1022Takedown/models.html )

With flash hider:
11125
11139
11141
11162
11170
11179

With thread protector on threaded barrel (no flash hider included):
11159
11160

Until I browsed the linked page, above, I never knew they made threaded models that DIDN'T come with flash suppressors.
 

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Until I browsed the linked page, above, I never knew they made threaded models that DIDN'T come with flash suppressors.
I've been wondering about this. A few months ago I bought a threaded stainless takedown with a thread protector, no flash suppressor. Not sure which model # however.

It was a gunshow impulse buy.

Picked up the Nikon P-Rimfire BDC scope. The included bag is too small with the scope attached, in thinking of picking up a Copper Basin 10-22 takedown low profile backpack... it's bigger and allows for space for the scope that overhangs the breach end of the barrel.
 

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I am one of many who bought a 10/22. Its still unfired. Just like in 99 I bought a mini 14. Worked with it (inside getting feel) and didn't like it. Sold the 14 couple yrs back. (still unfired) and fear the same will happen to 10/22.
I have a Glenfield bolt action. It what I grab when a skunk, Racoon, Injured animal... anyhing. The confidence I have in that thing. The shots it has made. (Ok to me most shots are less then 40 yards but on moving targets) or hopefully pausing for half second.
 

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I am one of many who bought a 10/22. Its still unfired. Just like in 99 I bought a mini 14. Worked with it (inside getting feel) and didn't like it. Sold the 14 couple yrs back. (still unfired) and fear the same will happen to 10/22.
I have a Glenfield bolt action. It what I grab when a skunk, Racoon, Injured animal... anyhing. The confidence I have in that thing. The shots it has made. (Ok to me most shots are less then 40 yards but on moving targets) or hopefully pausing for half second.
Good to hear you have confidence in your Glenfield; confidence is critical in making shots.

But it's gonna be difficult to develop any confidence with your 10/22 if you never shoot it. :supergrin:


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Good to hear you have confidence in your Glenfield; confidence is critical in making shots.

But it's gonna be difficult to develop any confidence with your 10/22 if you never shoot it. :supergrin:


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I guess I "kinda" dry fire a new gun a fair amount. Using multi checked unloaded gun (etc) I handle it, mount, aim at target (normally don't dry fire just release safety) Both guns just never felt "good" for me. (then I go to changing mags, running bolt but as rule very few dry fires)
Now pistols I do dry fire. (making sure unloaded of course) But esp .22lr it is normally not enouraged to dry fire.
 

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As a "survival rifle" I like the AR-7. The compactness just does it for me. Who wouldn't choose the rifle that could ride along with a box of ammo in a sustainment pouch?
I've owned a couple of those over the last few decades, made by various companies. While neat, and undeniably useful (especially for boaters), they have had a few problems. Reliability is a big one, durability is another with the fragility of the stock (the thinner of the two side panels is fairly easy to break if dropped while disassembled) competing with excessive wear if you shoot it a lot, and finally, the earlier versions could not be scoped at all. Optics can be added to some later versions, as long as you don't mind giving up that cool stow-everything-in-the-stock option.

If you can find a reliable AR-7, and are willing to work within its limitations, then as a true emergency gun (not a daily shooter), I think they have value. If you want to shoot a lot with your emergency .22, there are better choices, and the 10/22 is one of the leaders in this area.
 

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I've owned a couple of those over the last few decades, made by various companies. While neat, and undeniably useful (especially for boaters), they have had a few problems. Reliability is a big one, durability is another with the fragility of the stock (the thinner of the two side panels is fairly easy to break if dropped while disassembled) competing with excessive wear if you shoot it a lot, and finally, the earlier versions could not be scoped at all. Optics can be added to some later versions, as long as you don't mind giving up that cool stow-everything-in-the-stock option.

If you can find a reliable AR-7, and are willing to work within its limitations, then as a true emergency gun (not a daily shooter), I think they have value. If you want to shoot a lot with your emergency .22, there are better choices, and the 10/22 is one of the leaders in this area.
I agree. It is useful an extra or emergency firearm. I can't imagine shooting it all the time either.
 

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As a "survival rifle" I like the AR-7. The compactness just does it for me. Who wouldn't choose the rifle that could ride along with a box of ammo in a sustainment pouch?
The Ar7 (I've had one for 30 years) is kind of a niche gun. Pretty much designed to be stashed away for long periods of time and only used in emergencies. I do take mine out from time to time to play with it and have carried it as a back pack gun with the regular (and very bulky) stock replaced with a thin one.

The Marlin Papoose is another take down, stash away rifle that is better overall in terms of reliabilty than the Ar7. It is smaller, lighter and more compact than the Ruger take down. Like the Ar7, the Papoose is more of a specialized niche rifle.
 

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...The Marlin Papoose is another take down, stash away rifle that is better overall in terms of reliabilty than the Ar7. It is smaller, lighter and more compact than the Ruger take down. Like the Ar7, the Papoose is more of a specialized niche rifle.
I have an old papoose that I bought used cheap just 3-4 years ago. Like it quite a bit, but since it's a little awkward I don't shoot it much; and since it doesn't have a stow bag I don't pack it much either. Basically I don't do much of anything with it. Never really liked any of the takedown cases I've seen for the papoose, but after looking at the takedown rugers lately, I wonder if it would be worth getting one of the ruger takedown bags for it.

Neatest papoose setup I ever saw on the net was one that had been sbr'ed & suppressed, and had the wood stock skeletonized & a pouch made to fit the stock's cutout. The pouch was just big enough to hold the short barrel, suppressor and ammo. Was pretty slick, but haven't been able to find the picture again.
 

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I have an old papoose that I bought used cheap just 3-4 years ago. Like it quite a bit, but since it's a little awkward I don't shoot it much; and since it doesn't have a stow bag I don't pack it much either. Basically I don't do much of anything with it. Never really liked any of the takedown cases I've seen for the papoose, but after looking at the takedown rugers lately, I wonder if it would be worth getting one of the ruger takedown bags for it.

Neatest papoose setup I ever saw on the net was one that had been sbr'ed & suppressed, and had the wood stock skeletonized & a pouch made to fit the stock's cutout. The pouch was just big enough to hold the short barrel, suppressor and ammo. Was pretty slick, but haven't been able to find the picture again.
The new papooses aren't called "papooses" anyymore they are called model 70 ppss. They are stainless and come with a hollow plastic stock. If you pry the butt plate off you can store stuff in the stock which is pretty handy for a survival gun.

And yes, there are some aftermarket bags available for the Ruger that would fit the old papoose just fine.
 

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Many years ago I was a full time gunsmith, after
working on the AR7 I wanted no part of one, the
thought was good but the final product not so good.

The papoose was a much better gun, IMHO.

The Ruger is the best, IMHO, and can shoot
pretty good, some don't though but they
can be fixed.

I even threaded some of the receivers and
screwed barrels in them and pillar bedded them too.
 

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Many years ago I was a full time gunsmith, after
working on the AR7 I wanted no part of one, the
thought was good but the final product not so good.

The papoose was a much better gun, IMHO.

The Ruger is the best, IMHO, and can shoot
pretty good, some don't though but they
can be fixed.

I even threaded some of the receivers and
screwed barrels in them and pillar bedded them too.
At one time there used to be a lot of aftermarket parts for the Ar7. Things like barrel shrouds, stocks and even hi-cap mags were available.

I bought this stock/barrel kit off ebay one time. The mag is a Ramline 50 rounder.



Didn't really see the point of the barrel shroud but I learned that the barrel underneath was plastic with a steel liner like the Henry rifles. My Charter Arms barrel is aluminum with a steel liner. I cut the shroud off and the plastic barrel is a couple ounces lighter than the aluminum one.

I took the pistol grip off the stock to make it even lighter and used that gun for back packing.



Makes pretty narrow package

 

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To the OP...

You are a wacko. I'm a master class HP rifle shot. I hold a couple of state championship titles in small bore position shooting. I used to shoot $2k plus Anschutz target rifles.

I've owned a 10-22 since I was 13 years old. Its not the most accurate rifle I've ever shot. It doesn't have a 2 ounce trigger that breaks like a glass rod. Its not got a perfect stock or sight etc... The standard sights aren't the best. The stock trigger on mine wasn't great but it wasn't 12 friggin pounds...

But damn...its reliable, accurate enough to brain shoot a squirrel at 35 yards, and inexpensive enough that a 13 year old kid can buy one with yard mowing money...

I don't know what you expect from a $200-300 semi-auto rimfire. But damn....
 
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