[ronduke]

Routine difficulty breathing call in River Forest, ill. Audio: http://www.mnpoliceclips.com/audio-river-forest-il-officer-involved-shooting-712.html
Back story: http://mobile.oakpark.com/News/Articles/7-12-2015/Two-dead,-three-wounded-in-River-Forest-shootout/

 

[janice6]

Deleted for stupidity.

 

[steveksux]

That's weird. Why were cops dispatched rather than EMS on a shortness of breath call? Was it the hangups? Seems like they must have been suspicious if they sent cops, right?

Randy

 

[ronduke]

That's weird. Why were cops dispatched rather than EMS on a shortness of breath call? Was it the hangups? Seems like they must have been suspicious if they sent cops, right?

Randy

River Forest is a very small and very affluent near west suburban village. Usually they have a very low call volume .

 

[Sharky7]

A lot suburbs in the area will send a squad with every ambulance call. Very common.

 

[papajohn]

In my dept we are the first responders with ems not the fd.

 

[MSW]

I remember the old days when firemen and EMS were left alone by the bad guys.

If I were riding the EMS truck I'd want a gun.

At least the firemen have hoses and axes.

 

[m2hmghb]

Where I'm at it's always a squad car first. Most of the units have AEDs and there are several EMT-Bs on duty. It makes sense to me to have them scope it out, apply first aid if possible while waiting for the ambulance to get there.

 

[Sit means Sit]

Police get sent on OD calls here, as well.

 

[steveksux]

Police get sent on OD calls here, as well.

Some local SO carry narcan, already have a couple saves.

Randy

 

[Tvov]

In my town the Police are all at a minimum "first responder" trained and respond with the ambulance. Kinda makes sense, since they are out patrolling and usually are the first on scene. I am not sure what exact training they have, I think it is actually EMT.

 

[Sit means Sit]

Some local SO carry narcan, already have a couple saves.

Randy

That's in the works here. New law just went into effect, allowing officers to carry it. My chief is looking at giving it to those of us in HIP, and I hear LMPD is looking at it, too.

 

[Tvov]

Actually, I think the call in the original post was a Domestic Violence call, not really just a medical call.

 

[steveksux]

Actually, I think the call in the original post was a Domestic Violence call, not really just a medical call.

That's the situation, but thought the call came in as pure medical, but with hangups.

Randy

 

[fastbolt]

Whenever someone uses the word "routine" for any type of public safety call, the small hairs on the back of my neck go to attention.

I can't begin to remember the number of "routine" medical follow up calls I had that turned out to involve criminal acts and activities.

 

[FiremanMike]

Whenever someone uses the word "routine" for any type of public safety call, the small hairs on the back of my neck go to attention.

I can't begin to remember the number of "routine" medical follow up calls I had that turned out to involve criminal acts and activities.

Toothaches at 0300 are generally routine..

 

[fastbolt]

Toothaches at 0300 are generally routine..

Depends why it aches. BFT can also make them ache.

Headaches caused by microwave emissions from flying saucers can be a bit suspicious now and again.

 

[huskerbuttons]

I remember the old days when firemen and EMS were left alone by the bad guys.

If I were riding the EMS truck I'd want a gun.

At least the firemen have hoses and axes.

Some of the depts in Ohio are letting their employees carry as long as they have a CCW. I am lucky enough to work a side job at one of them.

 

[fastbolt]

Some of the depts in Ohio are letting their employees carry as long as they have a CCW. I am lucky enough to work a side job at one of them.

What do those folks who carry as private individuals plan to do without the umbrella of qualified immunity, policies, training and agency-backed weapons use plan to do in the event of a shooting?

Are the agencies just going to let the employees spend their own money for legal representation in the event of criminal and/or civil repercussions? Or, has permission to carry somehow entangled the agencies as far as awareness, approval and deep pockets?