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Road rage: What's the "official" or good advice on dealing with this?

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by Gallium, Feb 10, 2010.

  1. Gallium

    Gallium CLM

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    What I would do is - assuming I'm the "offender" that started the whole mess, ie by cutting someone off or turning in front of them etc etc is

    - if I can convey a CLEAR "SORRY" I will. If I can't, I won't do anything. If the person pulls up to my vehicle, I will slow down and stop.

    If they slow down and stop, and I can reverse, I will.

    If we've gotten to that point in the dance, I'd much rather keep driving until I got to a well lit area, and I'd have called 911 pretty soon after they pulled up to my window/beside me, and slowed when I slowed.

    'Drew

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  2. Steve0853

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    I agree wholeheartedly with conveying the "I'm sorry" if possible. Even if it escalates and I get the chance to apologize my way out of it, I would because of Step 4.

    Step 2 involves avoiding stopping and talking or any kind of additional contact if at all possible.

    Step 3 is stay in car and if blocked from escaping by other guy, stay in car and get prepared to defend.

    Step 4 is shoot the other guy if he draws a gun or breaches the closed window.

    It goes really downhill after that, but not as downhill as being dead.
     

  3. M&P Shooter

    M&P Shooter Metal Member

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    I never say sorry and I never start but if road rage comes my way they found the right MF'er to vent on. One of my favorite quotes is from a old song..... I never drew first when I drew first blood:whistling:
     
  4. Gary W Trott

    Gary W Trott Prickley Fan

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    Not trying to be funny but from reading the account in the original post that officer should have called the cops. The cell phone is a great defensive tool and if you are the victim of road rage, especially if the person continues to follow you afterwards, call the police.
     
  5. certifiedfunds

    certifiedfunds Cosmopolitan Bias

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    I had a guy that worked for me who was 6'4, 280lbs, built like a professional body builder and wore a national championship football ring. Spitting image of Stone Cold Steve Austin. His preferred method was to exit his vehicle and calmly approach the rager's driver side window and thank them for looking out for his safety.

    Yeah, I told him how dangerous that was.
     
  6. Bruce H

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    If someone follows you in a percieved road rage incident there are two courses of action. Drive to the nearest police station and park right in front. Let them know you are comming.

    Second course is drive to nearest funeral home.
     
  7. Gallium

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    He DID call the "cops". He called his partner, but alas, at the time his partner was responding to a call (this is what the news reported prior, versus my fertile imagination)...

    Maybe he felt sheepish about calling "911", but it tailspinned pretty damn quick.

    'Drew
     
  8. Glock20 10mm

    Glock20 10mm Use Linux!

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    With all the loonies out there... if I am confronted by someone with road rage I do all I can to distance myself from them. If they "latch" on then I will reach in back and grab a weapon, while I head for the nearest police station.

    Right, wrong or indifferent escalating an already childish outburst into a more violent confrontation is not on my list of things to do. I have no idea if they are armed, if they are how well they can shoot or are they under the influence of a controlled substance or alcohol. I don't know if they are on the edge mentally and what ever the perceived slight is pushed them closer.

    I am a pretty big guy (6'3" 205lbs) but against a potentially armed assailant that is already in a lather... size doesn't matter and arrogance can get you dead quick. So my course of action is to disengage and de-escalate as quickly as possible. I have other things far more important that dealing with an arsehole.:upeyes:
     
  9. Critias

    Critias Freelancer CLM

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    I know I've certainly got no plans to ever get out of my truck and talk to anyone I'm engaged with in traffic, unless it's to exchange insurance information after an actual accident. If things get hairy I'll either call 911 on my cell phone (or better yet, have Mrs. Crit do that while I concentrate on driving), but by the time things hit that point of fear and tension and adrenaline, the last thing I'd want to do is stop my truck and get out of it. It seems a shame to leave the 4800 pounds of metal an' such behind, in a situation that's turning violent.

    CCWing or not, reasonable size and a pinch of martial arts training or not, it always felt like there's way too many ways a scuffle on the side of the interstate could go really, really, wrong. Even if the other yahoo hasn't got a tire iron or a CCW of his own or whatever...too many cars, too little space, too much that could turn the whole thing into one of us dead.
     
  10. ChuteTheMall

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    If I make a mistake, I would try to give the sorry wave.

    Otherwise, avoid all communication and even eye-contact with any road rager.

    Any attention just escalates matters.

    Evade by taking an earlier exit, and/or taking a short detour if necessary.

    Don't pull into your own driveway.:okie:Remain anonymous.

    If you can't shake them from following you, pull right into a fire station or police station. They likely won't follow.

    If you get blocked in or in a crash, and if there is no alternative to a gunfight, then don't sit strapped into your trapped car as an easy target. Get out of that deathtrap (unless it's fully armored) and get off the X, moving fast, and taking cover (possibly behind the engine compartment of any available vehicle).

    Be prepared to move to other cover if pursued.
    And if you have to shoot, shoot; don't talk.

    The best possible result of any road rage incident is to just drive away.

    If you can first run them off a bridge, even better.:car::drowning::animlol:
     
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    Officer, this person acted liked a lunatic. I was afraid for my safety and pulled over, hoping he would go his own way. He did not, and threatened me with physical harm and death, so I shot him..:crying:

    I did lead 3 of our Southern neighbors either committing road rage or an attempted carjacking on me in AZ, on purpose into a dead end street, and exited my vehicle with a locked and loaded M1 carbine. They declined the invitation and left in a hurry.:wavey:
     
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    On that incident, the off duty officer made the simple mistake of NOT writing down the plates of the suspect vehicle; hence the last sentence of "police looking for X color vehicle of X brand" instead of just finding out who owns the vehicle and paying a visit.
     
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    Your done in court already. You stated to a police officer that you didn't discharge your weapon in the direction of the threat to try and stop threat but you instead stated you SHOT HIM. That says to the jury you wanted to put that bullet in him. What and how you say things to a officer can hang you come trial time. Say nothing, only speak to a lawyer if your right or wrong.
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4097602514885833865#
     
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    certifiedfunds Cosmopolitan Bias

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    with all due respect, Baloney
     
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    Plus he is baiting ragers onto dead end streets so he can shoot them:whistling:
     
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    I...........I.............I mean..........oh the hell with it. **sigh**
     
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    certifiedfunds Cosmopolitan Bias

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    Criminal defense attorneys gotta eat too.
     
  18. DaGroaner

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    During my final year in California I had a Yes on Prop. 187 bumpersticker on my Jeep. I drove to South-Central and back every day for work. One day a group of Latino gang-bangers decided to start riding my ***. I got caught at a stoplight and they starting piling pout of their car just as the light turned green which told me they were seriously looking for trouble. They followed me from the north-east corner of Gardena all the way to Hawthorne(a city I used to live in and knew well). I turned down an alley, parked my Jeep across it and got out and stood behind my car like a cop at a road block. They started to turn into the alley but when they saw what I did the driver whipped the wheel back around and the gave me they finger as they slowly rolled away. I got back in my Jeep and drove the rest of the way home. No biggie.
     
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    I hate it when the person that pulls out in front of me (whatever) - gives me the I'm sorry wave -

    Sorry my butt - get off the phone - put down the sandwich and pay attention to the road -

    I have noticed some drives - pull out in front of you - come into your lane - run red lights - tail gate you (even though you are in the right lane going 5 MPH over the speed limit) and then try and inflict you with road rage.

    I was on a two lane road - had a car come 1/2 way into my lane - I had no where to go (deep ditch) so I hit the brakes and horn - the other driver looks up - swerves back into his own lane missing me by a few feet - and then the little punk had fast enough reflexes to flip me the bird as he passed - caught me by surprise - I wasn't fast enough to flip him back. :steamed:

    I had a guy run a stop sign right in front of me - I slam on the brakes - hit the horn and just miss him - he turns his car around and tail gates me for a few blocks honking his horn.

    WTF is wrong with people - :dunno:
     
  20. ChuteTheMall

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    Most road rage incidents seem to involve the mutual active participation of two drivers - whoever calls the cops first isn't necessarily without blame. Escape.