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rifled propelled grenades

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  1. CPTCHAOS

    CPTCHAOS

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    Does anyone have any personel knowledge of Rifled Propelled grenades used in WW II or Korea.

    Specifically what did the recoil feel like. I see lots of pics of them shooting them with the stock on the ground but if you fired it from the shoulder what did it feel like? I imagine it would feel like being kicked by a mule.

    Also how effective were they in actual combat?
     
  2. southernshooter

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    Do you mean rocket propelled grenades? Maybe you are talking about mortars-they are fired from the ground.
     

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    Are you talking about things like the Garand and SKS grenade launcher attachments? Great question, I would think more accuracy with being stabilized on the ground for a ballistic shot like that. But that is a guess.
     
  4. MrKandiyohi

    MrKandiyohi Millennium Member

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    I do remember the Japanese had a little, short barreled gun that fired a grenade. The US soldiers learned the hard way that you don't place the base of the gun on your thigh when firing it or you'll end up with a broken leg.
     
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    ElevatedThreat NRA Member

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    The US rifle-grenades as used in WWII and Korea were never intended to be fired from the shoulder.

    The butt of the rifle was always placed on the ground and fired like a mortar.

    (The classic war movie "Battle of the Bulge" has a good scene where an annoyed officer quickly teaches a green recruit how to safely and properly fire a rifle grenade.)

    The grenade warhead was relatively small, and hitting anything required a lot of practice/luck. Still, they had anti-tank versions of these, using a shaped warhead charge, until other things like the LAWS came along later.

    -ET
     
  6. DScottHewitt

    DScottHewitt EMT-B

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    Muzzle-launched grenades.

    Rifle-propelled grenades.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rifle_grenade

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  7. Bill Powell

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    I have fired both the anti-tank grenade and the anti-personnel grenade from an M-1 Garand with grenade adapter attached to the bayonet lug. What propelled it was the blank cartridge from hell. If you look at cal .30 military ammo it is the blank with the ridges in the case, running lengthwise along the case.

    The anti-tank grenade weighed eleven pounds, and there were NO provisions for firing this thing from the hip or shoulder. Some of the Garands had a grenade sight bracket built into the left side of the stock. The sight was a little pivoting sight that let you establish the approximate range the grenade would fly. Garand stocks have been split from the recoil of that sucker. It had a shaped charge, just like the 3.5 rocket launcher and would penetrate ten or eleven inches of armor. That blank from hell would kick that eleven pound grenade a couple of hundred yards.

    The anti personnel grenade weighed about four and a half pounds, and could be fired clamped firmly to the hip. That blank from hell would fling that grenade three or four hundred yards.

    Aren't you sorry you asked that question?
     
  8. Inyo Tim

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    The M-14 had grenade firing capabilities. I remember scrounging the launcher attachment for my M-14 in Vietnam. I could never get any rifle grenades or cartridges, so I returned the attachment to the armorer. There is a gas valve that has to be closed before firing the grenade so the action won't cycle.
     
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    Bill Powell Cross Member CLM

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    MrKandiyohi, oddly enough that little short barrel Japanese grenade cannon was called a knee-mortar. Some of the guys used that interpretation too literally and tried to fire them from the leg.
     
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    My dad told me about G.I.s taking that interpretation with captured knee-mortars -- they messed up their knees pretty badly.

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    They now make "bullet-trap" grenades that can be fired with a live round, instead of a blank.
     
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    Nambu Type 89 mortar.


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_89_grenade_discharger
     
  13. Bill Powell

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    My next door neighbor, when I was a kid, broke his leg with one. He had it at mid thigh and got a simple fracture, just a cracked upper leg bone.
     
  14. MrKandiyohi

    MrKandiyohi Millennium Member

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    After I had posted, I remembered the name. So, technically, it doesn't fall under the rifle propelled grenade category. Close, but not quite.
     
  15. fnfalman

    fnfalman Chicks Dig It

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    The Israeli had some back in the 1980s.
     
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    DWARREN123 Grumpy Old Guy

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    Shot one with a M-14, grounded butt. I was told not to shoulder fire it if I did not want a bruised shoulder.
     
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    american lockpicker License to Il

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    I once had an SKS fitted with one of those launchers. Finding ammo for it is impossible.
     
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    :rofl: You mean grenades?

    Yeah, I can't seem to find them anywhere either....
     
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    I caught a show on the Discovery Channel about a similiar weapon they use to knock down doors. Looked like fun.
     
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    It's out there. Just need to do a separate Form 4 and pay $200 tax EACH