Rifle and scope suggestion

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  1. ithaca_deerslayer

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    Just hypothetical at the moment.

    What rifle and scope do I want? .223 and maybe a dream of $700 to $999 for the rifle and $700 to $999 for the scope. Likely bolt-action.

    Purpose would be mainly casual bench shooting 100 to 300 yards. Maybe longer if I was at a location with a longer range.

    Want to zoom in and get a good image at 100 yards and 1/2" groups. Also want to adjust clicks to be on target at 300* yards. Lean toward a mil dot and max power at least 14x, maybe 20x. Adjustments can be in 1/4" MOA, probably prefer that. Reticle in milrad, even if that mixes units. But I could be persuaded all milrad or all MOA for the right scope.

    I don't wznt to limit the rifle brand, but want something accurate.

    Currently have a light Inter arms Mark X .223 bolt for hunting, with a 4-16x older Simmons. I get 1" groups. No adjusting for distances as scope not click friendly.

    Also have a Rock River AR heavy barrel with Leupold 3-9x mildot giving .75" (sometimes .5") at 100 yard and 2.25" at 300 yards, meaning the groups hold well. NY is not AR friendly so I want something less likely to draw attention, and don't want to chase brass, plus maybe an easier gun to operate at the bench.

    Have a Savage 10FP in .308 with a Winchester 4-14x giving me .75" at 100. Thought about putting this post's dream scope on it, but been thinking about a dream gun and scope combo in .223 instead, thus this post :)

    So, pick the .223 and scope for me :)
     
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    The $700 limit on the rifle pretty much eliminates "pecision" or "sniper" type rifles. There are some good, accurate rifles in your price range though. If I was looking for the setup you are, in that price range, I'd probably get a Savage 16 fcss. The accutrigger and accustock paired with Savage's normal quality should make for a nice shooter.
    I'd pair it with a Vortex Viper PST 4-16.
     
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  3. ithaca_deerslayer

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    Been a while since I bought a rifle :) Maybe I have to up the limit to $999.

    That Savage looks nice. A Vortex scope is worth considering. Seems they get lots of good reviews.

    I wonder how much precision will cost me?
     
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    You want one of the Savage precision rifles. Consider the 6mm BR. It is inherently the most accurate cartridge available. For a scope, Niteforce is always the answer. But, I, too, have heard many good reports about Vortex from my buddies at the range who use them.
     
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    More money definitely opens up your options. However, you may not need or want anything more than the original price point offers. Between $700 and $1000 you probably won't see much more inherent accuracy. You will get a bigger selection of stocks which could be worth it to you.
     
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    If I was to change calibers, it would be .243 to get a better big game round than the .223 is.

    But I had a 6 mm Rem and got rid of it to stay with .223 and .308. I like some commonality among guns.

    The tricky thing will be the twist. My AR is 1 in 8, and handles everything well. My bolt .223 is 1 in 12 and doesn't like over 55 gr :)
     
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    As for the scope look at the vortex HS-T
    I have the 6x24 version
    Usable reticle, decent glass, tracks perfectly.

    As to the rifle I'd go with a savage and screw on a Shilen pre fit barrel.
     
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    Maybe the Remington SPS tactical 20" 1 in 9" twist.
     
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    The new Ruger Precision Rifle will fit the bill.
    Tons of great reviews out there. A real game changer most are saying.
    If it was offered in left handed I'd already have one.

    Vortex 6-24x50, because I have one and love it.
     
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    For a purely bench rifle weight is your friend. Most rifles in that pricerange you mention are usually lighter hunting rifles. I like the Savage Model 12 Long Range Varminter as far as stats go, have never shot one. At over 11 pounds without scope, would think it would be rock solid on a bench.
     
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    If they offer it in .223 :)

    .243 is a consideration though!
     
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    I'll have to think about how dedicated to the bench it would be. I initially think I'd still like to shoulder fire it.

    20" instead of 26" will have a lot more balance. My 6mm Rem was 26" heavy barrel, 700 BDL, and that sucker was way awkward with such a long barrel. Even my 24" Savage heavy barrel is awkward.
     
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    Whatever you choose, get a 1/9 twist or faster. For .223 out to 300 yards (and beyond) you want to be able to shoot heavy bullets, 69 grain sierra's or heavier.
     
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    Ruger Precision Rifle! Best bang buck riffle out there.. Change your caliber thoughts