Retro cool find today!

Discussion in 'Black Rifle Forum' started by OMCHamlin, Sep 17, 2017.

  1. OMCHamlin

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    While looking glassy eyed at a wall full of bottom dollar ARs at a very small gun shop yesterday afternoon, I saw an old codger with a carry handle and a tear drop shaped forward assist amongst them. I almost didn't bother to look, but when I did, I saw what I thought might be a rather older AR, one made by Essential Arms. A CAR-15 clone, it had their coated aluminum two position butt stock, 11.5" barrel with a brazed on 5.5" flash hider, with a proper bayonet lug, A1 sights, and a slightly odd lower, with raised lettering EA Co. KR Springs, LA, a Model J15. Fellas, I went back this morning and I think I just bought a pre-ban lower, and the rest of a retro build in mint condition, for the princely sum of $450.
    The coated aluminum two position stock and pre-ban lower are worth a nice amount to retro builders and those behind the lines in draconian ban states, but this little cutie is so old school that I might keep it all together and just shoot it. Or, I might sell the lower and pick up a decent quality non-rare lower and (hopefully) end up with a next to free AR. Won't that be the cat's @$$ with a Beeman 3x on an original carry handle mount? It's my understanding that the EA cast lowers (with the raised letter markings) were made by Ruger's Pine Tree Casting facility and all cast EAs were pre-ban, with those coming after made on more conventional forged (and roll marked) lowers.
    I hope I'm right, but either way I think I did okay. Who here knows anything about older, pre-ban ARs?
     
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    Yeah, but no photobucket anymore. Say, who else offers free photo stuff like they did? I would like to post a pic.
     
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    Can't speak to the specifics of who exactly manufactured it for EA but being pre-ban makes it slightly desirable in the ban states (CT comes to mind), unsure how much of a premium it would command though? Don't think they're quite as desirable as the Palmettos (the original Palmetto Armory, not PSA). Either way I'd say you did well at $450
     
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    Great find on the EA, congrats
     
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    I built my first couple ar 's back in 1990 on EA lowers. Went to tether and ran great. Yes they are pre ban. After 94 they changed the marking on the lower. As far as I know EA only ever made lowers no fully assembled rifles so go over the build carefully to check safety and workmanship.
     
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    Nice!

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    hmm, I'll look tonight...
     
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    How do you buy an old 11.5" AR? Do you have to go through the same paper-work/tax stamp situation?
     
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    Not if it has a 5.5" suppressor permanently attached...
     
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    So I called the good folks at Essential Arms yesterday, it (the lower) was made in about 1989 or 1990, cool, good to be sure it's pre-ban.
     
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    Now you can get a job at Dunkin Donuts filling eclairs.... Nice rifle!
     
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    It's a beauty. Thanks for the pics!
     
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    You paid a decent price. $450-$500 would be about right in most all free-states. It is a nice early XM177 type carbine upper assembly that is sitting on top of a nice pre-ban cast EA lower. What are the forge codes on the upper receiver carrying handle? The lower could be valuable in ban states as long as it is not banned by name. Otherwise, they are not greatly sought after lowers. Some retro guys, like myself, like the older lowers and builds for nostalgic reasons. Congrats on a nice carbine. My advice, do not change it around or part it out for any reason. If you ever decide to get rid of it, please let me know. I can give it a very good home.

    BTW, I am a bit of a retro guy. I know a little bit about these things.

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