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Remembering the alamo

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  1. Carolina Drifter

    Carolina Drifter CLM

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    REMEMBERING THE ALAMO



    By Chuck Baldwin
    February 23, 2010
    NewsWithViews.com

    February 23 marks the anniversary of the beginning of the battle of the Alamo back in 1836. For more than 13 days, 186 brave and determined patriots withstood Santa Anna's seasoned army of over 4,000 troops. To a man, the defenders of that mission fort knew they would never leave those ramparts alive. They had several opportunities to leave and live. Yet, they chose to fight and die. How foolish they must look to this generation of spoiled Americans.

    It is difficult to recall that stouthearted men such as Davy Crockett (a nationally known frontiersman and former congressman), Will Travis (only 23 years old with a little baby at home), and Jim Bowie (a wealthy landowner with properties on both sides of the Rio Grande) really existed. These were real men with real dreams and real desires. Real blood flowed through their veins. They loved their families and enjoyed life as much as any of us do. There was something different about them, however. They possessed a commitment to liberty that transcended personal safety and comfort.

    Liberty is an easy word to say, but it is a hard word to live up to. Freedom has little to do with financial gain or personal pleasure. Accompanying Freedom is her constant and unattractive companion, Responsibility. Neither is she an only child. Patriotism and Morality are her sisters. They are inseparable: destroy one and all will die.

    Early in the siege, Travis wrote these words to the people of Texas: "Fellow Citizens & Compatriots: I am besieged by a thousand or more of the Mexicans under Santa Anna. . . . The enemy has demanded a surrender at discretion, otherwise the garrison are to be put to the sword . . . I have answered the demand with a cannon shot & our flag still waves proudly from the walls. I shall never surrender or retreat. . . . VICTORY OR DEATH! P.S. The Lord is on our side. . . ."

    As you read those words, remember that Travis and the others did not have the A.C.L.U., P.E.T.A., People for the un-American Way, and the National Education Association telling them how intolerant and narrow-minded their notions of honor and patriotism were. A hostile media did not constantly castigate them as a bunch of wild-eyed extremists. As schoolchildren, they were not taught that their forefathers were nothing more than racist jerks.

    The brave men at the Alamo labored under the belief that America (and Texas) really was "the land of the free and the home of the brave." They believed God was on their side and that the freedom of future generations depended on their courage and resolve. They further believed their posterity would remember their sacrifice as an act of love and devotion. It all looks pale now.

    By today's standards, the gallant men of the Alamo appear rather foolish. After all, they had no chance of winning--none. However, the call for pragmatism and practicality was never sounded. Instead, they answered the clarion call, "Victory or death!"

    Please try to remember the heroes of the Alamo as you watch our gutless political and religious leaders surrender to globalism, corporatism, and political correctness. Try to recall the time in this country when ordinary men and women had the courage of their convictions and were willing to sacrifice their lives for freedom and independence.

    One thing is certain: those courageous champions at the Alamo did not die for a political party or for some "lesser of two evils" mantra. They fought and died for a principle, and that principle was liberty and independence. So did the men at Lexington and Concord. That is our heritage.

    Today, however, our national leaders are in the process of turning America over to the very forces that the Alamo defenders gave their lives resisting. On second thought, do they look foolish, or do we?

    Beyond that, how much longer do we have before it will become necessary for freedom-loving states such as Texas (and maybe Oklahoma, Montana, Wyoming, New Hampshire, Vermont, or South Carolina) to declare their independence one more time? An argument could be made that Washington, D.C., is considerably more brutish and tyrannical than old Santa Anna ever was. I'm not so sure that it isn't already time to again hoist the "Don't Tread On Me" flags, shout "Remember The Alamo," and renew the faith and courage of William Travis and Patrick Henry.

    Accordingly, I strongly recommend that readers study the current series of columns that my son, Tim Baldwin, is writing regarding the historical, constitutional, and legal support for State secession. These columns are brilliantly written and thoroughly documented. No honest person could read these columns and not recognize the right of states to secede. There will be a total of 12 parts to Tim's thesis. See them here:
    http://newswithviews.com/Timothy/baldwinA.htm
     
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    Texas Independence Day is coming up soon.
     

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    The people at the Alamo started that battle as loyal citizens of Mexico, fighting for the greater glory of El Presidenti agains that up-start Santa Ana. It wasn't til a little later that it became Texas against Mexico. A couple of weeks later they had the massacre at Goliad and that really pissed them off.
     
  4. NorthCarolinaLiberty

    NorthCarolinaLiberty MentalDefective

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    It is really silly how this pseudo-patriotic entertainment gets airplay year after year. They have a lot of nerve spouting off about liberty and independence, especially after they slaughtered and removed Indians.

    Remember the Comanches!
     
  5. american lockpicker

    american lockpicker License to Il

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    True.
     
  6. kahrcarrier

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    I consider the Alamo a tragic blunder.

    A noble blunder, to be sure, but still a blunder. The defenders should have abandonded the old decrepit old mission and found a more defensible position to make their stand and to wait for reinforcements. {Yes, I know the ill-fated Goliad garrison was supposed to serve that function}

    The defenders were very, very brave, but I have to believe that a few of them surely questioned the wisdom of staying when Santa Anna's troops breached the weakest wall then slew them to the man in a 45 minute fracas...............
     
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    I laughed when I read that Crockett told congress to go to hell he was going to Texas.
     
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    After growing up 66 miles from there and never going before I left for the military at 18, I finally went while visiting my parents last summer. It is an awe-inspiring feeling to be standing on those grounds. If you ever get the chance to go it will be time well spent. They even have a locke of Davey's hair!
     
  10. Russell Speir

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    Can I assume that you would make the same comment on the 4th of July?

    Concerning the Comanches, they didn't arrive in Texas until around 1740, driving out the Lipan Apaches (who also drove out other tribes), the Tonkawas and other tribes. They were tough customers and considered by some to be the finest light cavalry ever. They also "slaughtered and removed Indians."
     
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    good lord.:upeyes:
     
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    Wonder how Ozzy will celebrate?
     
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    NorthCarolinaLiberty MentalDefective

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    Well, I thought it was common knowledge that Indians raided each other. Do you think I am Comanche, or is it that you simply think I don’t have a career in “blogging?”
     
  14. Russell Speir

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    Just wondering why you felt the need to rag on Texas. Didn't figure you were Comanche but I would bet a majority of Americans have some American Indian heritage. Atrocities have been committed on both sides but the same can be said for the Normans, Anglo-Saxons, Romans, Mongols, Gauls, Vandals, etc.
     
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    I've seen a documentary with the idea that Crockett wasn't killed at the Alamo, but was captured and killed later. Is there any evidence for that or did he die in the fort?
     
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    I'm by no means an expert but I believe the only evidence for Crockett surviving the battle at the Alamo and be executed later is from a journal written by a doctor with Santa Anna's army. There's been debate whether it's a fake or not.
     
  17. juggy4711

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    I am a descendant of Daniel William Cloud who was a defender at the Alamo. March 6th never passes with out me thinking of it. The Texians at the Alamo were heroes, and patriots whose sacrafice to stall Santa Anna should never be forgotten.

    April 21st is right around the corner. I've always felt it should be treated like the 4th of July, huge parties, fireworks etc...at least here in Texas. This year I hope to make it out to San Jacinto.
     
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    Which El Presidente? Santa Ana was elected President of Mexico in 1833.
     
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    Militarily, the Alamo bought Sam Houston time. Its not a failure by any means.
     
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    I would hardly rag on Texas. I have considered moving to the Abilene area, but those plans are shelved for now.

    I guess I should take my time reading. I read the title of this article and assumed it was written by a Texas historian or someone in the know. I once visited the Alamo and listened to a presentation by a Texan who was proud of his heritage. I thought, at the very least, that this article was written by someone like him.

    Do you really take this “article” seriously? The “author” mentions PETA. What in the world does the People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals have to do with an important historical subject? I should read more carefully before commenting on such tripe.

    If you’re reading this stuff for information, you might as well be getting your news from me.