My inference (which could be wrong) was that they wanted to make a "stealth" fighter that would look like a commercial or private jet for recon purposes--if caught where they shouldn't be, they could pretend to be an innocent, harmless non-military aircraft that was just off course. Then they decided to put missiles on it, too.They already had Mirage F1's
" The Bedford Incident "; Widmark, Poitier, James MacArthur. I read the novel and thought it was an excellent movie. Not the same ending as the novel though; a minor change.What movie is this clip from?
Thanks for sharing your experience, I always appreciate hearing from people with specific knowledge about the systems in use.Whether the launch platform was a modified business jet or not isn't the issue with the Stark.
The missile system on the Stark could have handled the Exocet. I was THIRDFLTs rep to the Pacific Missile Test Center 82-85 and a ship of the same class took down a Vandal. Vandal was a converted Talos SAM which dove toward the ships at a 45 or 60degree angle at mach 2.5 and had a small radar cross section.
The frigate shot it down.
The problem with the Stark is that their behavior suggests that they weren't in at least Condition 3 steaming, three section watch in CIC and probably port and starboard in the missile radar room. They didn't even fire a shot, not the missiles or the CIWS. CIWS could have handled the Exocet as well. That too was demonstrated.
Rules of engagement mean nothing when the ship's safety is at stake, the CO has a duty to defend the ship. There should have been a qualified TAO (Tactical Action Officer) on duty in CIC at all times. What is unique about the TAO qualification, which normally requires a specific course of study, is that unless overridden by the CO, he/she has weapons release authority. Don
I think you're quite correct on the Exocet profile.Thanks for sharing your experience, I always appreciate hearing from people with specific knowledge about the systems in use.
My understanding (just from things I've read) is that the Exocet missile is sea-skimming and doesn't turn on its homing radar until it's very close to the target, so that radar and ESM are unlikely to even know it's there until it's way too late, doubly so if they're not already in missile-defense mode.
If you have any thoughts that you can safely share about that process, I'd be curious to learn more... it seems clear that as you say, the Standard missile launcher or CIWS had enough capability to handle the Exocets in theory, but obviously only when being actively employed.
Like with the Iranian gun/missile boats that hassle our ships, I just have no idea how any captain is supposed to manage the difference between bad guys locking you up with fire-control radar for ****s and giggles, and the day they actually toss a couple anti-ship missiles your way?