Yep the 9mm runs at higher pressure, but the brass is thicker too. If you run std. pressure loads, 10x is easy. I shoot a 124gr LTC cast from clip on ww (BHN 10-12) it runs fine all the way to 1200fps w/ little to no leading. A good lube helps, WHitleLabel Carnuba is tops. Unique & lead bullets are like PB&J. If you don't like Unique (5gr) then WSF (5.1gr) or WST (4.8gr). Clean burning & very accurate.
Reloading 9mm for a Glock?
Up to this point, I have mainly reloaded .45ACP and .223
I'm going to start reloading 9mm for a Glock 17L and I have questions. I'm going to use lead bullets, so I am going to get an aftermarket barrel.
1. How many times can 9mm brass be loaded? I never worry about it with .45ACP, but 9mm is a much higher pressure round.
2. Anyone have any favorite loads/powders for 9mm w/lead bullets?
3. What is the minimum Brinnell hardness rating for lead bullets to not get a lot of leading due to the high velocity of the round?
I'm going to start reloading 9mm for a Glock 17L and I have questions. I'm going to use lead bullets, so I am going to get an aftermarket barrel.
1. How many times can 9mm brass be loaded? I never worry about it with .45ACP, but 9mm is a much higher pressure round.
2. Anyone have any favorite loads/powders for 9mm w/lead bullets?
3. What is the minimum Brinnell hardness rating for lead bullets to not get a lot of leading due to the high velocity of the round?
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Agreed, 10+ loads is common. I like 4.1gr of TiteGroup using 115gr bullets, not sure how much different this data is from jacketed to lead.
I download my 9's quite a bit for several reasons...Up to this point, I have mainly reloaded .45ACP and .223
I'm going to start reloading 9mm for a Glock 17L and I have questions. I'm going to use lead bullets, so I am going to get an aftermarket barrel.
1. How many times can 9mm brass be loaded? I never worry about it with .45ACP, but 9mm is a much higher pressure round.
2. Anyone have any favorite loads/powders for 9mm w/lead bullets?
3. What is the minimum Brinnell hardness rating for lead bullets to not get a lot of leading due to the high velocity of the round?
1) longer case life
2) less pownder used
3) less leading
4) less pressure
5) less recoil
6) reduces anticipation
7) makes new shooters feel less stressed
8) allows quicker fallow-up shots
9) makes a potential double charge less severe
Whats it made of?
122 grain projectile
Brass: Winchester, Remington, Blaser, magtech, Star-line, PMC all these work wonders...
Primers: Prefer federal or winchester (currently will use anything but WOLF :shakehead: )
Powder: Clays (ORIGINAL) 3.4 grains
^^^this powder charge is what works with my recoil spring, yours may require something different...
Up to this point, I have mainly reloaded .45ACP and .223
I'm going to start reloading 9mm for a Glock 17L and I have questions. I'm going to use lead bullets, so I am going to get an aftermarket barrel.
1. How many times can 9mm brass be loaded? I never worry about it with .45ACP, but 9mm is a much higher pressure round.
2. Anyone have any favorite loads/powders for 9mm w/lead bullets?
3. What is the minimum Brinnell hardness rating for lead bullets to not get a lot of leading due to the high velocity of the round?
The 17L I had hated light loads. I had a load I used in my P226 and P225 that pushed a 125 fmj at about 975-1000fps. The SIGs loved the load, light shooter, and lots of accuracy. It never ran good in my 17L.
The 17L loves hotrod loads (atleast the one I had). You might need a different recoil spring to go along with that new barrel and light lead loads.
Let us know how it works out..
You will need a lighter recoil spring to run light loads in any 9mm Glock. I have not had good luck with lead in my 9mms -- a lot of lead builds up. The moly coated lead, on the other hand, has worked well.
I do believe Glock does not recommend reoaded ammo in all Glocks and will in fact void factory warranty if used.
I may be wrong though.
I may be wrong though.
And does every other gun manufacture.I do believe Glock does not recommend reoaded ammo in all Glocks and will in fact void factory warranty if used.
I may be wrong though.
I shoot about 7 GSSF matches a year. If need be I well take my guns too the Glock Armorer and have them replace any parts that my be in need of replacement. They my ask what Im shooting in the gun and I well tell them reloads. They still work on the gun, and hand it back to me and say have a nice day.
Now if you blow up the gun, that is a different story. Especially if you shoot lead in a stock barrel.
Consider plated bullets, they've been real good in my 17L, and you can push them hard.
I'm using Rainier 130 grain .356" .38 Super bullets with excellent results.
I'm using Rainier 130 grain .356" .38 Super bullets with excellent results.
A double charge is not going to be less severe! DUH It still is a double charge, and a double charge of TG whether 7.0 or 7.6gr aint going to be a lot of difference when the gun comes a part!I download my 9's quite a bit for several reasons...
1) longer case life
2) less pownder used
3) less leading
4) less pressure
5) less recoil
6) reduces anticipation
7) makes new shooters feel less stressed
8) allows quicker fallow-up shots
9) makes a potential double charge less severe
1. That is their stance, but it is more from liability than anything elseI do believe Glock does not recommend reoaded ammo in all Glocks and will in fact void factory warranty if used.
I may be wrong though.
2. If you are shooting a softer lead bullet, there CAN be problems. That's why the OP was asking about the Brinnell hardness... a hard lead bullet doesn't have the same issues of the softer lead ones.
3. Shooting FMJ is no problem at all.
Most of the serious shooters reload, as they can "bake" up their own loads. It's hard to find 147gr 9mm ammo, but that's the preferred bullet for most competitive shooters. A "light" 147 gr load gives minimal recoil for double taps, while still meeting power requirements of the organizations.
Don't believe everything you read..
Up to this point, I have mainly reloaded .45ACP and .223
I'm going to start reloading 9mm for a Glock 17L and I have questions. I'm going to use lead bullets, so I am going to get an aftermarket barrel.
1. How many times can 9mm brass be loaded? I never worry about it with .45ACP, but 9mm is a much higher pressure round.
10+ times. Will depend on how hot you load 'em, how much the case expands, how well your resize die works, how well the primer pockets hold up, original quality of brass, etc. I figure there's a good chance I'll loose it before getting to 10+ reloadings (i.e. far flung on ejection). I'd load new loadings in newer brass just to be (more) safe.
2. Anyone have any favorite loads/powders for 9mm w/lead bullets?
Not yet, compared to FMJ. I've shot mostly 125gr. I'm loading some I got for $40/1000. They smoke pretty much no matter what (due to the lube), but they shoot true. I've tried IMR 800x, IMR 700x and TG. They all fire and are accurate enough. I have some Solo 1000 to try next. And, I plan to finish off a can of Clays just to play around.
3. What is the minimum Brinnell hardness rating for lead bullets to not get a lot of leading due to the high velocity of the round?
I personally don't get in a twist about that buying factory LRN. It's lead, and it's all crap IMO (expect for moly) compared to FMJ no matter how you slice it. You can't reload non-moly lead hot generally. I consider 1000fps a good ceiling, but some lead can be pushed faster (e.g. moly). I shoot what I can get cheap, and that's the only reason I even bother with lead, so keep my lead on the s/low end. I run them in a G19 LWD barrel.
See above...
Precision Delta, but be prepared to wait.Most of the serious shooters reload, as they can "bake" up their own loads. It's hard to find 147gr 9mm ammo, but that's the preferred bullet for most competitive shooters. A "light" 147 gr load gives minimal recoil for double taps, while still meeting power requirements of the organizations.
-Scott
????Precision Delta, but be prepared to wait.
-Scott
I said AMMO, as in factory made stuff, with the bullet, case, powder, primer, etc. What you find in stores is mostly 115gr stuff (not counting SD hollow points). That's why I said the experts reload, is so they can create the load they want.
Plus, I ordered 147gr BULLETS two weeks ago from Montana Gold. Ordered them on Friday, got them the next Thursday. Slightly more than Precision Delta, but they get them to you and the quality is way better.
Precision Delta and Montana Gold aren't even a valid comparison from what I've seen. PD seems to be way behind on production, has huge shipping delays, iffy quality control, and enough business that they don't seem to care. MG's bullets look better, are packed better, and ship fast.Plus, I ordered 147gr BULLETS two weeks ago from Montana Gold. Ordered them on Friday, got them the next Thursday. Slightly more than Precision Delta, but they get them to you and the quality is way better.
Yeah, I saw that too & went, "WTF"? A double charge of TG is very likely to take your gun apart, at least bend it badly. I have no proof, & I doubt I could get those that have KB their psitols to be honest about it, but I'll bet more pistols are KB using small charges of uberfast powder than any other reason. It occupies so little space, it's diff to determine a dbl. w/ TG. Just as bad, it's hard to verify a pwoder drop at all. Squibs can take apart guns just as readily. Beware of mousefart loads. It's one reason I never change the gun for the load, run stock springs & stock pressure ammo & you are more likely to stay out of trouble.A double charge is not going to be less severe! DUH It still is a double charge, and a double charge of TG whether 7.0 or 7.6gr aint going to be a lot of difference when the gun comes a part!
Precision Delta and Montana Gold aren't even a valid comparison from what I've seen. PD seems to be way behind on production, has huge shipping delays, iffy quality control, and enough business that they don't seem to care. MG's bullets look better, are packed better, and ship fast.
Though, I for the whole agree with you're statement... One of the most important factors in regards to reloading is COST. When comparing PD and MG, MG's 147g 9mm FMJ's are $38 more per 1K. That's 33%, I don't know of anyone else here but I've tried both with the same loads, no appreciable difference that I can see in performance through my G34 same with thier 124 FMJ's.
$38 savings is another brick of primers these days... if you can find them, but that's another issue.... I'll stick with the PD's if only for financial reasons
Beware of mousefart loads. It's one reason I never change the gun for the load, run stock springs & stock pressure ammo & you are more likely to stay out of trouble.
I agree!
Howdy,
I don't have a (mm Glock but I do have a LW 40/9mm conversion barrel for my G23 and I've reload for it some today.
I was using 2.3gr of Clays w/ a 147gr LFP w/ a 1.125"OAL. Very mild load. Shoots great through my gun using KCI/Khan mags.
Paul
I don't have a (mm Glock but I do have a LW 40/9mm conversion barrel for my G23 and I've reload for it some today.
I was using 2.3gr of Clays w/ a 147gr LFP w/ a 1.125"OAL. Very mild load. Shoots great through my gun using KCI/Khan mags.
Paul
Only if you're buying 1k is it $38. If you buy 3k from MG, the price changes to less than $18 difference per 1k.When comparing PD and MG, MG's 147g 9mm FMJ's are $38 more per 1K.
The prices I recall is $84 per 1k from PD. From MG, if you buy a CASE, it is $305 for 3k which comes out to $101 and change for a difference of less than $18.
I ordered 2k bullets from PD back in March, and STILL don't have them. I ordered a case from MG 3 weeks ago and had them within a week. That $17 is insignificant for me, as I can't find ammo around here.
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