Regulator on the grill crapped out

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  1. FullClip

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    Is this the guy that works at your store??
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    I wish!!
     
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    It's built into the bc inflator hose.



    The bc has a valve at the top that bleeds air when you pull on the inflator hose.

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    I do too. Daddy says I got it from Mommy.
     
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    As I recall the Poseidon Cyclon regulators have a higher IP than most other manufacturers, and can cause a free flow on 2nd stages not set for the IP. If the 2nd stage is set for the Cyclon, it will be a low volume/hard breather with other manufacturers first stages.

    I had a auto buoyancy Dacor BCD with a regulator that failed open with a Cyclon 300 with pretty bad results.

    One of the nice things about Poseidon 2nd stages is that they work well as a primary or secondary because of the symmetry (right/left - and no upside down).


    There are real “downsides” to give up your primary and switching to a secondary -particularly a BCD regulator while controlling buoyancy. A longer hose secondary given to (or accessed by) the OOA diver is a better option.
     
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    Great idea, pull down on the hose that's in your mouth while you're breathing on it during an emergency ascent. Dump that gimmicky ass crap and get a proper second stage regulator so you don't drown yourself and your buddy.
     
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    Kielbasa (Kowalski) taste best when cooked in a Greenegg with lump charcoal........
     
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    This is what I use.

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    You should turn the burner off first - then shut off the tank.

    You may have tripped the the excess flow valve built into your regulator.

    The regulator is more than likely not bad - just needs to be reset.
     
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    That silly crap is nothing but a liability.

    As mentioned above that Zeagle is going to be low performance at best coupled with your 1st stage and the whole idea of breathing of your LP inflator hose is a huge safety issue
     
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    I have never had a problem breathing from it and controlling my buoyancy, and I have tested it down to 100 feet. A lot of divers here use them (including instructors).
     
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    Ever since I bought this grill I have shut it down by first shutting of the tank, then the burner and never a problem until the other day. I'm thinking that I forgot to shut off the burner the last time I used the grill.

    Edited to add: I ended up doing the reset twice to get it to light properly. There are times the regulator has a a high pitch hum.
     
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    Industry wide they are considered a bad idea and for very good reasons that at least two of us have pointed out. That's why there are only one or two companies that make them. I've dived cattle boats as a DM from 2007-2012 and very few divers are using them or Poseidon regs for that matter. It's not common place and they are a liability. Best of luck to your dive buddy.
     
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    Same thing with my SIL gas grill -

    I had a spare regulator - so I switched it out - grill worked again - but within a week or so it happened again with the second regulator. That is when I Googled it and discovered the reset.

    Far as the hum - I don't know about this - but it worked for me - it may have just been a coincidence.

    I had the regulator turned sideways - it was making a high pitched hum - so I twisted it so it was flat / hose connector side down - the hum went away.
     
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    The Poseidon regulators are good - just finding a knowledgeable tech can be a problem. I used to service them, but lost my certification a long time ago.
     
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    My first tech instructor was a dealer and serviced them. The most common problem? Free flow. I don't know a single tech diver using them today but maybe they are still popular with the recreational crowd.
     
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    Getting the geometry of the lever to the diaphragm is pretty important to smooth breathing and preventing FF. I always adjusted the sleeve to direct the air 180* from the mouth piece on a secondary and it was almost impossible to FF (because of the turbulent air flow). Even on a primary, I’d adjust the airflow about 20* from directly out of the month piece, with no more FF problems than my USD or Scubapro’s.

    I think John Chatterton and Richie Koehler are (still) using Poseidon regulators.

    Years ago, the Cousteau divers (Michael, et al) were using them for technical diving, particularly cold water; even though they had an affiliation with US Divers.
     
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    May be more prominent in wreck diving but I've not seen a single one in cave. As a matter of fact that last one I saw in service was over a decade ago.


    ETA can you really blame someone for no longer using USD even with affiliation? ;)
     
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    Non scuba here. FF = Free Flow??
     
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    Correct