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Discussion in 'Florida Glockers Club' started by J Crew, Jan 5, 2007.
I never heard of this hand signal...see below. Anyone else heard of it or better yet used it?
Thanks for this thread. I was just wondering today that if, as someone without a CCW, I could keep a handgun in my glove. I don't have a holster since I don't carry but when I do have the gun with me it would be nice to be able to put it there rather than in the trunk like I have been doing.
Can the gun be loaded if you don't have a CCW?
EDIT: Never mind, I see above that someone mentioned the gun can be loaded.
I don't know why the 3 step thing refuses to die, it was never the law here.
One thing to remember is most officers still think there is a 3 step law and you may end up in cuffs til it's sorted out. Way back when I went to my CC class they included an article from a central Fl. paper. An attorney got pulled over, officer sees weapon, asks for permit, lawyer says I don't need one it's legal, lawyer spends 10 or so hours locked up, gets 60,000 dollars for wrongful arrest suit. I keep the copy of the laws in my car, just in case but an officer who doesn't know the law most likely will not read the law or debate it with you if he's convinced he's right, but you may get a big payday out of it.
All the employees at my local gun shop have a loaded firearm on or around their center console. Many keep it within easy reach, concealed by a small towel. All our law enforcement cares about is if it is in plain sight. I got pulled over in Jacksonville Beach with a desert eagle in my unlocked glove compartment; the officer pulled out the weapon, smiled, and said "There needs to be more Americans like you".
Nothing herein contained prohibits the carrying of a legal firearm other than a handgun anywhere in a private conveyance when such firearm is being carried for a lawful use.
I take it this means long guns (rifles & shotguns) are not a problem when carried in a private conveyance (car or truck). ???????
Court in FL.
Both my wife and I have CWL's I carry on my hip everywhere I go, she carries in a belly band sometimes..
Good Post...very informative!
Concealed weapons on military bases does any one have any information on the rules on this?
I was told that you could not! Any insight would be great.
Good post, and comments.
Great info, newbie here! I usually carry everywhere with my gov't credentials
This is true. No personal weapons, concealed or otherwise are allowed on military bases. Checked it out before visiting grandson at Columbus AFB Mississippi 4/28/13.
Thanks for the Forum , lots of good info , waiting on my CCW .
So, just to clarify and see if I understood this discussion correctly...
Is this correct? A non-CWP must encase the weapon in car.
A CWP holder does not need to encase the weapon, and can carry it on their person, in a belt holster, in the console/glove box -- wherever they want, since they have a CWP.
...and everyone needs to keep it out of sight, CWP or not. No open carry, not even in a car.
Do I have that correctly?
A pistol must always be concealed in a car, with or without a permit. With the permit, the pistol can be on you just as you would carry anywhere else or in a glove box, snapped holster out of sight, center console, snapped gun case, zippered bag, etc. The only thing that changes if the pistol is not on your person while in a car is that it can be "outside of the ordinary view of others". Basically with a CWP, you can have it laying on the passenger seat covered by a shirt.
Without the permit, you obviously cannot carry the pistol on your person, and the rule also becomes more strict by requiring the pistol to be "securely encased in a latched compartment". This includes center consoles, glove boxes, zippered bags, the original Glock case, etc. (I know a zipper isn't a latch, but it qualifies.) There is no "3 step" rule which is a misconception I seem to hear about at least once a week, and whether the pistol is loaded or unloaded also does not matter.
Long guns and shotguns are fair game anywhere in the vehicle. Driving with an AR-15 sitting upright on the passenger seat may not be the brightest idea as it invites unwanted attention from others and invites being stopped by police, but it is not illegal.
Hope this helps.
Holy Thread Resurrection Batman!
Carry a copy of the Florida Statute (790.0) in your car. Cops and deputies can't be expected to memorize all the Florida statutes and keep up with the changes.
When I first got my FL CCW oermit about 15 years ago, you could carry in an airport, just not the "sterile" area, meaning anything past the security checkpoint.
I found out by accident that the law had been changed to prohibit carrying in the entire terminal.
I agree -- carrying a copy of the statute in your car could not hurt, as long as you mentioned it politely and respectfully, without sounding like a smart-***. Of course, some LEO would not care what you did or did not have printed out, but it might make them at least check with HQ on how to proceed.
790.251 enough said.