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Recommend me some ammo for 12 gauge.

Discussion in 'Caliber Corner' started by GlockPistola, Jan 12, 2013.

  1. unit1069

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    What distinguishes "military grade" from any other shotgun shell?
     
  2. unit1069

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  3. SCmasterblaster

    SCmasterblaster G17 carrier since 1989 Millennium Member

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    We are blessed with such a wide selection of quality buckshot loads.
     
  4. kmrcstintn

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    I don't have a dedicated defense shotgun anymore, but what I do have was built up over several years and includes: buckshot...Winchester Ranger #OO buck, Remington #4 buck, Remington #00 buck, and more recently Remington Managed Recoil #00 buck; slugs...Brenneke K.O. 2 3/4" 1 oz, Brenneke Tactical Reduced Recoil 2 3/4" 1 oz, and a few Federal Truball Reduced Recoil 2 3/4" 1 oz...

    being a 'hunting' shotgun I also keep around various Federal #7 1/2 & #8 lead birdshot, Remington 3" Nitro Turkey #5, Kent 3" 'Multi Purpose' #2 & #BB steel shot loads...

    if I had to use it for defensive work I would start with the reduced recoil #00 buckshot, regular #00 buckshot, and then #4 buckshot; the slugs were bought to use for deer hunting if my primary rifle ever had a failure...
     
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    I'll be getting my Mossberg M500 back soon. I'll load it with OOO buckshot.
     
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    So you can have less wounding potential and more over-penetration. Good call.
     
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    Less wounding potential? With 8 .36cal projectiles @1350 FPS?
     
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  9. GlockPistola

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    I ended up getting some Hornady TAP low velocity 00 Buckshots, Federal low recoil H132 00 buckshots and some Winchester #1 Buckshots XB121.
     
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    How is it they can fit 9 - 115gr bullets is a 12guage case. Man that's a lot of cramming.:dunno:
     
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    Calculate the amount of shot surface area that is in contact with flesh as it travels through the target. That's what causes damage. The contact area times the penetration depth.

    8 .36 cal balls provide 1.62 square inches of area contacting (damaging) flesh.

    16 .30 cal balls (#1 Buck) provide 2.26 si. That's 28% more area (if I did the math right) damaging tissue as it passes through the target. One third more pellet area, 32%, over 00 Buck.

    00 Buck typically penetrates 20-23 inches in ballistic gel. 000 Buck would be much worse (more penetration than 00B - bad). Any penetration beyond the target is wasted and in fact increases your liability by threatening other objects/people beyond your intended target. #1B hits the FBI recommended (>12" - <17") sweet spot at about 14.5-15". The added recoil of 00/000B doesn't aid in quick followup shots either (in case of multiple a/o armored targets).

    #4B sometimes makes 12" and sometimes does not while providing only a marginal area improvement of 7-8% over #1B. Any load that does not consistently provide enough penetration should not be considered for serious defensive use.
     
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  12. countrygun

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    Good choices. If you find your gun has preference in those loads, stick to it and it will do the job just fine.
     
  13. SCmasterblaster

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    It is eight .36caliber pellets in the 12ga case. I am thinking about changing over to the No. 1 buck load. This thread has an impressive video showing the No. 1 buck in action.