Recommend a low cost scale please

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  1. xdmikey

    xdmikey

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    I'm loading pistol(small charges)and my RCBS 750 wanders after loaning it to a newb on another forum. This was my second 750; first just wore out after 8-10 years. I have an Ohaus 10-10 that I love but it doesn't read less than 10 grains, I don't believe.

    There must be something out there since technology keeps on marching!

    Thanks.
     
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    The Ohaus (RCBS) 10-10 reads less then 10 grains. Set the beam slide weight to Zero and adjust the gnurled nob to the weight desired. First, make sure the scale is level, and reads Zero with the beam weight and gnurled nob both set to zero; you may have to add/remove weight to the pan holder to calibrate. Currently, my RCBS 10-10 is set to 6.5 grains.
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  3. jmorris

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    The 10-10 reads to the tenth of a grain and the beam will move within the fraction of a tenth of a grain.

    If you can detect the movement of the beam you can see a single kernel difference.


    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLp9M6VI3gM&spfreload=10


    This is 0.0 grains
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    This is 1.5 grains.

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    This is 3.2 grains.
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    This is the manual.

    https://rcbs.com/RCBS/media/RCBSMedia/PDFs/Instructions/English (EN)/Model_10-10_Scale_Instructions.pdf

    Cliff note version is the drum is tenths of a grain, every complete revolution is 1 grain up to 10 grains, then you move the slider and start over.
     
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    Yeah your 10-10, in fact every reloading scale I have seen measures to 1/10gr.
    If you want to go elec, then I on, you have to spend more than $100. The cheap scales drift like crazy.
     
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    I use a RCBS 10-10 scale also. Previous posts are good advice.
     
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    I bought a Hornady digital bench scale 4 or so years ago when they were $75. They're over $100 now. It's been excellent. Spot on when checked with test weights.
     
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    Thanks folks!

    I was thinking my 10-10 should work and low & behold it does.

    Thanks for saving my bank account GT
     
  10. 9x45

    9x45 Millennium Member

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    Actually the low cost digital's of today are very reliable. You just need to be on DC power and keep them out of any breeze. I made up super low mass check weights (2-5 grains each) on our $15,000 Mettler-Toledo lab scale (+/-. 00001 grains) at work, and my $20 Amazon jewelers scale reads them spot on (to only .1 grain). Keep in mind that Dillon powder hoppers can only hold +/- .1 grains per throw, with even the finest sugar powders, like TG, so if you set at 3.3 grains on any scale, your throw will be 3.2 - 3.4 grains. I also have a 30 year Ohaus (branded MidWay) digital for rifle, along with my oldest, long before digital, Redding # 2 beam balance.


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    Great descriptions of the 10-10 above. Spot on. My Ohaus-branded 10-10 scale is trusty and useful. But for most everyday tasks, I find the 5-0-5 to be simpler to use.

    If recommending an inexpensive scale, I would recommend finding a used American made 5-0-5 that is a couple decades old. Late models had outsourced production, and recently Ohaus did a run of the 10-10 and 5-0-5, production outsourced to China.

    I'd look for an RCBS 5-0-5 with packaging that has the Omark Industries label. That would most assuredly be the real deal.
     
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    Accurate yes they can be but do they drift? In my experience with cheaper scales, they drift.
     
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    The one I have does not drift. Which brand did you happen to have?

    By the way, looks like the Prado IDPA doesn't have too many shooters signed up. What time do you guys usually finish?
     
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    A engineer friend of mine told me quality, low cost strain gauges (heart of a digital scale) have become common place. The only time my Hornady drifts is when the fan a foot from it is running. I just kill the fan when i'm weighing. The Hornady will also start to flip between digits (example: bounce between 4.8 and 4.9). It's telling me it's around 4.89 or so. A few more grains of powder and it's a steady 4.9. I kinda like that.
     
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    I have never liked the auto zero “feature” the charge masters have.


    View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmxBSOOL7Ks


    That’s just a way to hide the fact that they drift.

    Even the directions for my A&D balance say you turn it on and let it warm up for at least a half hour before use, that’s to keep it from drifting and it’s not a cheap instrument.
     
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    I have tried a couple cheap models; Hornady, FA, both drifted like crazy. Why I use a Dillon.
    Yeah Prado has dropped off the last year or so. We used to run 80+ every match, now the avg is 60. Might get 50 this weekend. Lots of reasons that are out of my control. With 50, check in before 8:30, start @ 9am, we should be done by 12:30. I run sq1, still space?
     
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    Thanks, probably roll with Van on 6, if we make it.
     
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    I have a pair of chargemasters, and a 10-10. Happy with all.
     
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    Make sure you say hello. I am always on sq 1.
     
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