I have to agree with you about DT. I have had accuracy problems with their ammo for the last year. I have measured OAL's on their loads and they are all over the place. Mostly below 1.250 I have had DT 165 Remmington GS measured as low as 1.243 and some in the same box 1.252. This alone will cause some accuracy issues. I think that Montana Golds are decent bullets. Their are very consistant weight wise. I have measured a hundred or so bullets and they have all been within .3 gr of 165. Can't say that for Speer or Golden Sabers. I have had variations as much as + or - 3 to 4 grains of 165 with both of those bullets. I wonder if anyone can tell me how ell the Montana's open up.