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Discussion in 'Veteran's Forum' started by MarkP, Feb 7, 2006.
Any of you have any opinions/experience about either service?
What's your background? What are you interested in doing? Your choice of component may depend on what kind of unit and position you're looking for.
If you're a former active duty 11B you might get a little bored with the USAR-we only have one combat arms unit in the entire component (100th in Hawaii) and it's an infantry unit. The rest is combat support and combat service support.
On the other hand, maybe you want to approach it as a second career and finish your 20 years.
I'm in the USAR. I've trained with the Guard some and know some people who've been in the Guard.
Former 11b , E5 @ETS in '94.
Since the Army upped it's max age for enlisting , looks like I can get back in with a waiver , as long as I pass an "over-40" physical.
The RESERVE recruiter has a position for Civil Affairs Specialist.
Looks interesting after looking at the MOS , but getting involved in tribal diplomacy just doesn't sound appealing..
Local Guard has an Infantry unit forming up that may go AirAssault later , be good to get in on the ground floor on that one ,already AA q'd.
If they do form an Infantry guard unit you may want to join that. It looks like you'd be interested in that type of a unit and already have the experience.
I don't know if you know this already or not, but with Guard and Reserve units your rank and mos may depend on the slots they have and what kind of people are on the roster. My unit has lots of people SPC and above with very few (2?) Pvts. They changed the regulations about "slotting" recently, otherwise I would have a very long wait ahead of me to make SGT. The point is, you may have a better shot at advancement with a newly formed unit.
You may end up in a leadership position by virtue of your experience. In my unit we have quiet a few prior service but also quite a few whose only experience is with the Reserve unit. Besides, it sucks having to play catch up to people who've already been in the unit 10 years in a field you don't know.
I don't know if you care so much about that type of stuff or not, but I felt I should pass it on.
Thanks for the info .
One of the good things about already being MOS' qualified is I wouldn't have to do Basic again
An MOS change in the Reserve would mean AIT + whatever else I would need to get caught up in a new career field .
I'm still going to give the Res recruiter his chance at a final sales pitch.
Maybe something better will come up ??
I have been in both. Most everything was the same. About the only difference I saw was that the guard was a little more integrated into the local area, but that could have also been differences in unit mission. Reserves was infantry while NG was an emergency medial unit. As was already said, go with the one that gives you the job and benifits that will best suit your interests and future goals.
thanks for the advice , I went Army National Guard .
Congrats, I got out of the Marines in 96 after 8 years. I joined the Guard in 04 at 34. I reclassifed to 11b last summer. There are plenty of opportunities it seems. I was going to add that the civil affairs is an almost guarantee to deploy from the guys I have talked to. Could be good or bad, depends on point of view. I am over in Kosovo right now and its an easy mission. Patrolling towns where hte main problem is that people live with no electricity 16-20 hours a day. There is not as much ethnic tension as we were expecting, final status talks could change that....
I was 11B Army 89-91 and Army NG 91-96, am now an RN and getting my packet together to join the Army Nurse Corps, they raised the age limit to 46.5 and allow associate degrees. Wish me luck I miss the service
Great choice. I was in the Guard for 21+ years. The Guard in your state may have additional benefits above and beyond the Reserves for school etc.
Also, there's something about being a part of emergency assistance when your state needs you. They're both good organizations however. Also consider that you can transfer from one to the other, if for instance a position opens up that's the next rank that you're interested in. It's a paperwork shuffle but it can be done. In my experience in my state, they work together.
If you value unit cohesiveness and camradrie, the Guard is the way to go. One thing I noticed in OIF2 is that Reserve units pull people from all over the country as needed to backfill slots. Our replacement unit was 70% fillers and their lack of unit cohesion showed.
I noticed that Guard units have more cohesian because of the low turnover (which can also be bad when trying to get rank).
...just my observations.
South Carolina National Guard is offering for soliders coming off of active duty
Two year non deployment statis a 10 grand bonus and two years off of your inactive ready reserve time.
I joined up last week to finish my obligation.
So the obligation is down from 8 years to six? And the State is guaranteeing it? Isn't it a federal obligation? if so, wouldn't it be uniform across the board for all? Just wondering.
That's what my contract says.
According to my post renlistment officer. Most states are offering you two years off your IRR time if you do a three year commitment to the Guard. and the 10G bonus helps. But not all. This just came out around febuary when this was conducted and it's only a trial progam to keep active in the army some way or another. And the progam is only active for a year or maybe two.
Why it's not uniform is beyond me. But the national guard is putting up better bonus than the reserve at this time. Which is why i went with it. It will finish my obligation and no hard feelings. even if i do get deployed again.