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Discussion in 'Reloading' started by FiremanMike, Feb 16, 2010.

  1. FiremanMike

    FiremanMike Way too busy

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    OK, my hand and gun are both intact, no squibs or apparent double charges...

    Load data 4.0gr titegroup, 115gr precision delta at 1.150 pal.. rounds were extremely light recoil but cycled every time. I also noticed them to be very smokey and dirty.. Would going for a shorter oak fix these issues?
     
  2. Colorado4Wheel

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    Congratulations.

    You want a mid level load with most powders. You have a light charge and a long OAL. Hence the dirty gun.
     

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    Glad it went well and you still have all your appendages.
     
  4. FiremanMike

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    Well, with the Lee powder disk measure, my choice for charge in titegroup is either 4.0gr or the next chamber up is right at 4.5-4.6gr.. The max listed for 115gr FMJ was 4.7, so not wanting to push it I opted for 4.0gr..

    If I shorten my OAL, will that change things significantly?
     
  5. Gunnut 45/454

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    Yes if you shorten them loads your pressures will go up-be very carefull with 9mm OALs especially with near max charges! The dirty loads are probably caused by you light load- not and optimal load usually don't burn efficiently go to a middle load and it should burn better!:supergrin:
     
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    Yeah I'm nowhere near max charge, and I'm on the long end of 9mm OAL anyhow..

    Before I ask this, yes I have looked, and again, there's no firm load data out there for titegroup + 115 fmj..

    would 1.13 be too short (i've shot as short as 1.109 before)
     
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    Congrats! TG is known for being smokey on the bottome end. You need to bump the charge wt. a bit. Get closer to middle data, thnigs should improve. Drop the TG all together & go w/ WST to lose the smoke & still shoot on the low end.
     
  8. Colorado4Wheel

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    I used TG in that measure. Never found it to go up that much with the next disc size. You should try the next disc just to see what it throws. Settle the powder. Throw it 10 times then weight the last one.
     
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    Alright I'll go try that.. What do you gusy think for 1.135 for oal?
     
  10. Colorado4Wheel

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    I use 1.130 all the time. My friend is using TG at 1.130 with 4.1 or 4.2 grs (cant remember for sure) and a 124 gr bullet. Your using a lighter bullet and less charge and longer 0AL. All those factors decrease pressure.
     
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    Alright I loaded 15 rounds 4.0gr @ 1.13 OAL, 15 rounds 4.5gr (I can't get in between.. the 37 pocket is 4.0 even, the 40 pocket is 4.5 even) @ 1.145 OAL.. Front of the titegroup bottle lists OAL of 1.125 but that is with 115gr GDHP.. so we'll see what happens..
     
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    Hmm....Lee powder drops are so different from person to person it drives me nutz. My .37 slot will drop 4.3g of TG and the .34 will do 4.1g. I stay with 4.1g with the 115g FMJ's and 4.3g with 124g FMJ's. All run at a 1.125 COL. I was going for the lightest recoil I could get so I can shoot when my hand is hurting. ( Carpal Tunnel and other nerve damage.:crying:) I did fine with 4.3g and 115's but liked the 4.1 better. Hogdon;s data in the Load Book has a 4.5-4.8 range with 1.125 COL for 115g FMJ, fwiw. All I know is I can run those 4.1's all day and even when hurting.:cool:



    BTW, I have a note on the TG jug and on the book to TAP the hopper after every drop. Makes a huge difference in weights some days.
     
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    On a LCT the Powder Measure is moving around a lot. So those people will get different results then the LM. It even can vary by the way you pull the handle. Thats why on a LCT it's best to pull the handle as if your making bullets (4 times) and then weight the charge.

    Edit: Or learn to to sweat the small change if you know what the press is going to do when you start using it.
     
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    I use the auto disc on pretty much all pistol and very little rifle. I'd rather have a consistent drop, esp with hot powders...thus the tapping. I want that hole full before I drop it. My rifle drops are all done with a RCBS Uniflow on the turret. :cool:
     
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    creophus Born Again

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    Congrats Mike! Glad it went well. By the way, ALL double charges are apparent!
     
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    Mike,
    you need to get rid of the discs and get a "universal charge bar." There is a small thumb screw and it is infinitely adjustable. I think they are in the range of $10 or $15. Makes life so much easier.
     
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    Bad idea. It will bridge with small throws of TiteGroup. Large volumes are ok I hear but I am convinced it led to several of my squibs.