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Range report: New Dan Wesson Valor vs. Springfield TRP

Discussion in 'General Firearms Forum' started by bac1023, Jun 19, 2008.

  1. bac1023

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    Hey guys, I took my new Valor along with a bunch of 1911s to the range today. I haven't shot in a while. I was comparing the Valor directly to the Springfield TRP, which is about the same price ($1300 or so). I have always felt the TRP was the best 1911 in that price range, or below $1500, for that matter.

    Anyway I had a great time and was very impressed with the Valor's performance.

    I'll rate them in a few different catagories, some may overlap somewhat. Obviously, this is only one man's opinion.

    Finish: I have to give the edge to the TRP. I think its one of the best quality production 1911s you can buy, with a flawless stainless finish. The Valor is also stainless, with a nice matte black coating. Its very nice, but the slight edge goes to Springfield.

    Looks: Definately the Valor. I think its one of the best looking 1911s available today at any price. I happen to like a clean looking 1911 without front serrations and "billboard" marking on the slides. I also think the solid trigger looks great. While the TRP is nice looking, its just too busy for me. It could due without that "Tactical" stamp on the frame.

    Reliablility: Tie. Niether have had any problems. I thought the Valor might, as my DW CBOB needed some break in, but this fired two hundred rounds with no problems whatsoever. The Springfield is rock solid.

    Features: The edge goes to the TRP. Some may not like all the features it has, but it comes standard with a magwell, two piece guide rod, which I love, and an ambi safety. The Valor has the single sided safety, no magwell, and a barrel bushing.

    Trigger: The Valor has the best trigger of any 1911 I own under $2K. Its amazing. Very crisp and light, with a great feel. The TRP's trigger has a more solid feel, but not quite as nice as the Dan Wesson's.

    Accuracy: I give the edge to the Valor, but its a slight edge. I was shooting 25 yards on a makeshift rest and was able to rip the inner circle out of the target with both easily. I had a couple outside with the Springfield, but that may have been my fault.

    Build quality: This is a tough call. The Valor feels more like a semi custom gun with its trigger and smoother slide. However, the TRP is just rock solid and feels like you could hammer nails with it. I can't give the edge to either, but they are much different and its hard to describe any better then I did. They have to be handled back to back to fully understand.

    Exclusivity: If this matters to anyone, the Valor wins in a landslide. They just came out. Plus, I hear they will be built sparingly and not in the numbers the Pointman and CBOB are. Likewise they are very hard to find. TRPs are everywhere.

    Miscellaneous: There are a couple things to point out about each. The TRP has deep 20lpi checkering on the front strap. This does not bother me, but many feels its too rough. The Valor has my favorite, which is 25lpi (30lpi feels too smooth to me). One thing odd about the Valor is the grips. they are the woven micarta "blond desert" VZ grips. While I love the way that look, the get dirty and turn black while shooting or if they come into contact with gun oil. I had to remove and clean them with a toothbrush and soap. I'm not going to replace them, because I think they really compliment the Valor's good looks.


    In conclusion, they are much different 1911s. I can't say I think the Valor is quite as good as the TRP from an overall standpoint, due to the TRP's features and solid build quality for the money. However, I prefer the Valor over the TRP for its looks and feel. Sorry I can't pick a winner, but I just wanted to give a rundown for those interested in a 1911 in this price range.

    I will wish everyone who wants a Valor good luck in finding one.

    Here are some pics of each and a few of them together. They are much different and that can be seen in the pics alone.

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  2. bac1023

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    I'm with you, the tactical stamp is just...tacky.

    :puking:
     
  5. nick__45

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  6. Cobra64

    Cobra64 Deals in Facts

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    Thanks Bac. Excellent and fair assessment. Objective factors such as accuracy, tolerances and so forth can be measured; most interesting however in your report was an as unbiased as possible, the aspects that presentation and ergonomics are individual personal preference interpretations.

    Cheers,

    Cobra
     
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    Very nice bac, thanks for taking the time to create this post. The TRP seems like a nice pistol, but the Valor would be my choice based solely on appearance.
     
  8. ECVMatt

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    Great review...

    I have a TRP and love it. I really like the simple look of the Valor though..

    Enjoy those guns!

    Matt
     
  9. Forgoten214

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    Very nice as well. I was waiting to hear about the Valor. Did the TRP require a break in as well? The TRP finish, is that finish Durable? That Black with the Valor is very pretty too. I always liked those G10 composite grips that come with the TRP as well, they always seemed very durable and provided a nice grip. What grip i want to try out is Wilson's Starburst G10 grips. Now those look bad ass!

    Great review BTW
     
  10. alwayshear

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    Nice report, thanks for posting!
     
  11. GlockBill

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    Very nice pistols. I've been itching for a new DW 1911 for a while, now I want one even more.
     
  12. grecco

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    Thanks for sharing!
    Beatiful pistols.
     
  13. Cruiser702

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    Sure is a beauty! Enjoy! :)
     
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    bac, nice work as always. I always enjoy your comments on 1911's. I can't wait until I can get a TRP.
     
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    Sounds like an objective review. Excellent photography. Don
     
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    Thanks again for sharing, and for the drool on my keyboard.

    :thumbsup:
     
  17. Thorazine

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    What kind of ammunition did you shoot?

    Slow fire?
    Rapid fire?

    Results of either or both?
     
  18. MacG22

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    Thanks, Bac. Immensely helpful as always. And I like the green carpeting much better.
     
  19. Mr. S

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    Nice review.
    That Valor is a real looker.

    Did I mention that I hate you :)
     
  20. Berto

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    Great report.

    I like the appearence of the Valor, no billboard or silly front slide serrations, solid trigger...very business like.

    Cast frame?