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Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by Roogalator, Feb 4, 2005.
Do the low-fuel warnings on planes actually go Bingo! Bingo! Bingo! ?
Quite the opposite. On the vast majority of aircraft a low fuel situation is indicated by a sudden silence.
Only on military planes.
1. Master Caution Light -- ON
2. Master Caution Tone -- SOUNDS (beeper)
3. EICAS Message -- FUEL CONFIG
4. Excuse -- BETTER BE GOOD ONE
Hey, there's an airfield down there in Canada, let's glide!
No!...NO!.....Wait! There's the Azores, let's go there instead!;T
Is that our ETOPS alternate? We'll have to remember to stick a wrench in the engine when we land...
On small aircraft, there is no "bingo, bingo, bingo." Instead, "crap, crap, crap" is manually uttered by the pilot.
Seriously though, you shouldn't even trust the fuel gauges in small planes. Fly by time-- calculate the gallons per hour you burn, and keep an hour of fuel in reserve.
Along with the low fuel warning, the career dissipation light starts blinking really fast.
I only trust fuel gauges when they are on "E".
Usually only the planes where oxygen rots your brain do they have the voice that tells them that their fuel is low. (Those jet guys need all the help they can get, lol). The TH-57 (Bell 206) had a low fuel warning light.
...which illuminates with approx 12 gallons of fuel remaining. Each aircraft, if equipped with a low fuel warning system, has it's own particular way of warning the pilot. As a rule the more complex the aircraft, the fancier the warning systems.
;z ;z ;z That's too funny.
Wasn't there that AirCanada 757 or 767 about 20 years ago that glided something like 100 miles to an abandonded airstrip when they ran out of fuel?
The airstrip was being used for drag races and the plane landed without squishing anyone. Can't remmeber if the pilot got spanked on that...
Yeah they made a movie about it in the 80's I think but I thought they had a catastrophic failure of the cockpit windows. Could be wrong I just thought that was the one where they tried to lower a pilot from a helicopter to the plane because both pilots where KIA or KOed. COuld be wrong and probably am or at least Hollywood is.
Wrong movie. Glocknspiehl is talking about Falling from the Sky. The movie about the Gimli Glider.
A funny thing about that event. After the 767 landed at Gimli, a group of Air Canada mechanics was sent out from Winnipeg in a van in order to repair that plane. Their van ran out of fuel on the way to Gimli.
Air Canada was able to fly the plane out of Gimli 2 days after the emergency landing.
The only time I ran out of fuel, shortly after flight school, the only low fuel warning was an instantaneous deafening silence.;f
Yes there was a fuel mix up between pounds and gallons, metric v U.S. I believe. Any way some FUD was put into the computers and I must say the pilot did a very good job of getting the plane on the ground in one piece, well probably missing some chunks of tires and a new seat.
Every plane has a best glide speed, that will take you so far for each 1000 foot of altitude lost. If I remember from the report, he even slipped it coming in. Turns the aircraft to right (in the left seat ) with right rudder and left aileron, this makes you lose altitude faster to hit his RWY mark but keep RWY in sight and not increase speed. Altitude that you can not get back either. Pretty gutsy move. I believe they also ran the scenario in the sims and nobody made it. No matter what the plane is. Fly the wing. Never run out of gas. 1 hour minimum in the tank on the ground tied down.
We do this all the time in the sim just for fun. I usually make it about 90% of the time. Dead sticking isn't all that hard, you just have to think back to your Cessna days when every landing was dead stick.
I only know of a low fuel light in Robinson helicopters.
When this goes on, the next field/parking lot is yours!
Helicopter glide not too well!
Helicopters glide fine! They just don't glide very far. Look between your feet, maybe a little farther depending on helicopter type, and that's about the distance you're going to go. Of course you can turn to a more suitable landing area if you react quick. Just as long as it's the same or less distance and the first.
Does a Robinson low fuel light really give you just seconds of warning? I've not flown one. All the types I've flown typically give you approximately 20 minutes warning.