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Professor Proposes Smoker's License

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  1. NorthCarolinaLiberty

    NorthCarolinaLiberty MentalDefective

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    Simon Chapman of Tobacco Control suggests "radical efforts to achieve the tobacco control endgame." Aspects of the license:


    • Up to $200 government license fee
    • Maximum number of cigarettes purchased
    • Government database of smokers and their Smart Cards
    • Tourists apply for license before traveling
    • Applicants pass a knowledge test for smoking
    The Australian Chapman notes that the World Health Organization's Framework Convention on Tobacco Control has been ratified by 176 nations.

    http://www.plosmedicine.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pmed.1001342#pmed.1001342-Framework1
     
  2. DaneA

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    It would be just like living in Chicago with a gun.
     

  3. Dragoon44

    Dragoon44 Unfair Facist Lifetime Member

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    Lets apply it to Liberals! you have to have a license to be one!

    Up to $2000 government license fee.
    Maximum number of liberal ideas expressed
    Government database of Liberals their not so Smart Cards
    Tourists apply for license before traveling
    Applicants flunks a knowledge test to qualify as a liberal.

    :supergrin:
     
  4. cesaros

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    stupid.

    What is everyone's obsession with controlling personal habits...

    Want to smoke? Smoke.
    Want to drink? Drink.
    Want to do drugs? Do it.

    As long as its only effecting you...who the hell cares.
     
  5. G17Jake

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    It would be a tax on the poor.
     
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    G26S239 NRA Patron

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    I did not see any reference to rich people not being taxed for smoking. Furthermore I did not see a requirement that poor people must smoke. It would be interesting to see how much many municipalities, states and the federal* government would see in revenue shortfall if the anti tobacco zealots were successful in getting every tobacco addict to quit.

    *Any federal government not just the US.
     
  7. NH Trucker

    NH Trucker Needs coffee...

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    It's a matter of demographics. There was a study done a while back where it was found that more lower income people smoke than higher income. Therefore, a tax on the poor.


    Here's an article in the NY Times about it.


    http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/21/american-smokers-and-income-charted/
     
  8. G17Jake

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    I'm just saying smoking is more common among the poor. At least that is my observation.

    The entire smoking license is ridiculous, but not surprising from a professor.
     
  9. glockdoc21

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    It would actually be a tax on the rich...poor people smoke and then get cancer/heart disease/lung disease and then get on government assistance which the rich fund with tax dollars. Thanks smokers!
     
  10. zoyter2

    zoyter2 Yeah, so what?

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    Great idea! I was just thinking the other day.."Ya know, the GD government just doesn't have it's meddling fingers in enough aspects of our lives."

    I mean, just look at the intelligent, all-knowing, faultless, men and women that make up or ruling body. Who wouldn't want them to control everything?
     
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  12. sputnik767

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    Don't take this as my endorsement of any particular policy, but it does not only affect you. If I am walking down the street and you are smoking in front of me, it is affecting me too. If I am sitting in a bar and you're smoking next to me, it is affecting me as well. And before you mention this, plenty of bars allow smoking even if it's illegal. And when you decide that it makes more sense for you to spend $300+ per month on cigs vs buying health insurance, it affects all of us.
     
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    I thought any one that makes over 250,000. doesnt pay taxes. Under does, heck I would love to make half that. (middle Class? )
     
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    Hey, your post count is too low to be making that kind of sense here.
     
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    Taxes on tobacco are paid by people who use tobacco not just poor people who choose to use tobacco.

    Wealthy people who use tobacco are not exempted from paying the taxes on tobacco.

    Poor people are not forced into using tobacco, it is a choice they freely make same as wealthy people who use tobacco.

    Furthermore poor people with EBT are having their food and (often) rent subsidized so I fail to see how their choice to pay a sin tax on a product that they choose to buy is an undue hardship.

    Using tobacco is a stupid choice. So is using other harmful drugs.

    Poor people are free to opt out of tobacco sin taxes.
     
  16. Gallium

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    I don't smoke, drink booze or do drugs.

    Don't care if others do.

    Do care that most smokers, drinkers and druggies never seem to have the means of fixing themselves when they **** their lives up. It almost ALWAYS falls on "everyone else" (including smokers, drinkers and druggies who don't ail from their habits).

    Thing is, to say what you say is like me saying "yeah, people should be able to take an elevator to the top of the Empire State Building, and step out in thin air" .


    Because that is exactly what usually happens. Idiots take the cheap thrills and leave "the rest of us" to clean up their mess.
     
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  19. Batesmotel

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    Just stop government subsidies on tobacco. Let real market forces determine price. That will price most people out of the market.
     
  20. Drjones

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    The only thing I hate worse than cigarette smoking is the smoking nazis, but this "if it doesn't impact anyone else" attitude is completely retarded.

    If a woman in another state gets raped, it doesn't affect me either but that doesn't mean it's OK. Abortion doesn't directly, immediately impact my life, but that doesn't mean it isn't murder and that doesn't make it OK.