Gen 4 G19 owner. I've put around 1500 rounds through it now. To finally kill the "left of center" issue I have to be very slow and deliberate on my trigger pull. It has to indeed be a "surprise" break. The results are very good when I do this. The problem now is I don't see a way to increase speed. Any attempt to shoot faster brings the left of center grimlin back into the picture. I have small hands and believe my short reach to the trigger is the reason I have to be so slow and deliberate on shot breaks. I know there are grip reduction services out there but would rather not go that route. I guess I could just compensate with a right of center aim when shooting fast but I dislike band aids like that. Could be that the fit of the pistol just won't work for me. I really like the Glocks. Hoping I can get this figured out. Advice appreciated.
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You need to roll you right hand into the gun a bit more and get yourself about another 1/8" of finger on the trigger. The edge of the trigger should be a hair away from the crease at the last joint of the finger. Also, relax your pinky finger on the strong hand. It should contribute nothing to the grip, with all the power coming from the two middle fingers.
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Here's where I ended up....
I drifted my rear sight to compensate, and use kentucky windage at longer distances. SInce I hit low and left, I aim high and right. I've learned to adjust just how far high and right based on distance.
I can rapid fire and keep a good group.....plus I shoot a ported G17C.
I drifted my rear sight to compensate, and use kentucky windage at longer distances. SInce I hit low and left, I aim high and right. I've learned to adjust just how far high and right based on distance.
I can rapid fire and keep a good group.....plus I shoot a ported G17C.
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Shooting your Glock stock ? Lighter recoil spring and trigger will shrink the group and move it to the center with faster follow ups.
Don’t do it before you try whatever HK Dan suggests or if you like to keep the [email protected]! stock trigger for some reason...
Riding the trigger will give you also quicker follow ups. It needs practice.
http://www.degrata.com/pdf/Firearms_Trigger_Control.pdf
Good luck!
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You can use a caliber that is less likely to require a second or third shot (!)
Groups will open up at speed, period, end of story BUT if they're opening up and you're walking shots significantly less then you're NOT performing your fundamental tasks properly.
Speed will come with time. Speed is essentially the perfect execution of the fundamentals....only faster.
Keep working on your slow fire fundamentals and eventually you will speed up.
Speed will come with time. Speed is essentially the perfect execution of the fundamentals....only faster.
Keep working on your slow fire fundamentals and eventually you will speed up.
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This.. I put about 1/8 more finger on the trigger at the same time being careful not to pull with the distal joint of the index finger. Much more comfortable and a lot more control.
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I've also found that getting a little more finger on the trigger has made a lot of difference in my being able to move the trigger straight back without moving the muzzle. A lot of dry practice has helped, as well.
And I'm going to try the pinky finger recommendation, to see if that's been affecting my shots!
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If you are using the small backstrap(no backstrap) and the grip is still too large you may need to consider that the Glock just isn't for you. A grip reduction might help, but it's a big expense with no guarantee. I think you would be better off finding a gun that fits you instead of using a poor grip. Adjusting the sights so you flinch the rounds on target is also not an optimum plan.
Thanks for all the replies. Some good stuff here. I'm gonna try and get more finger into the trigger guard as suggested by HK Dan and others. It'll be a bit of a stretch. The knuckle at the base of my thumb sits under the left corner of the slide now. Maybe I'm pushing the speed thing and just need to stick with slow fire as Mag suggested until speed picks up naturally. Super .38, the article in that link is a good one. I hadn't seen those figures on how very small muzzle movement translates into significant POI change at even small target distances. Explains a lot. Not much room for error. Sure like the G19 and don't want to give up on it. I'll keep at it.
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Maybe practice shooting to the reset...that's been working pretty good for me for the follow-up...and lots of dry firing is helping me get on target more quickly.
But for self-defense I think I would prefer to have a wider group.
But for self-defense I think I would prefer to have a wider group.
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Might want to give the '-' connector a try. I first tried it When I got a
G24. It helps me with correcting shots at 2" left and 1" high @ 10yds.
Also helped with follow up shots during double taps.
I also have small hands and turn into my grip.
Although it seems strange, the full size frames feel best to me.
I just put a '-' connector in my Gen2 G23&G22 and shot them today.
It really corrects my left pull. I hope I dont start shooting to the
right as I practice more.:supergrin: I also use talon grips for grip control on
any Glocks that are not rtf.
G24. It helps me with correcting shots at 2" left and 1" high @ 10yds.
Also helped with follow up shots during double taps.
I also have small hands and turn into my grip.
Although it seems strange, the full size frames feel best to me.
I just put a '-' connector in my Gen2 G23&G22 and shot them today.
It really corrects my left pull. I hope I dont start shooting to the
right as I practice more.:supergrin: I also use talon grips for grip control on
any Glocks that are not rtf.
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