Precision AR10 6.5 creed

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  1. jeremy1

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    Hey guys I am looking for a fairly accurate AR10 to add to my collection. I am looking for something that is suitable to 1K yards.
    Right now I am looking at the LMT 6.5 creed long range. I may also get a shorter 308 barrel.
    What I want to know is what the competitors in this price range offer. Is there a better gun for the same money?
    Optic will be something in the 5-25 power range
    Thanks
     
  2. John43

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    Just put an Aero 6.5cm together with a Cronus scope but I haven't shot it yet. A friend put one together and all the rds were in the same hole.
     

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    LWRC

    https://lwrci.com/p-5306-repr-mkii-65-creedmoor-elite.aspx
     
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    Build it . A lot more gun for your money.
    Receiver set $500
    Rail I prefer the JP modular $250
    Brux barrel $500
    Bolt bcg $200
    Upper/lower parts kits $150
    AR gold trigger $225
    Sir adjustable gas block $150
    Little bastard muzzle break $150
    Just over 2k and you’d have the best of the best. Very similar to my go to setup. Outshot my Ruger Precision. So I sold the Ruger.
    You could even build an 80% lower for about an extra $150 and have an amazing rifle only you know about.
    I would bet my paycheck the setup above would outshoot the lwrci. I obsess over accuracy especially at distance
     
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    Lot of people make big claims about building guns that will outshoot LWRC and Larue guns.

    At the bench, I don't see a ton of guns that deliver on that.
     
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    Lwrc has never produced a rifle that was super accurate. I could put a brux barrel with matching bolt in a aero precision receiver set and outshoot any lwrci on the shelf. To each his own but their barrels aren’t even in the same playing field as Btux, Krieger, or bartlien just to name a few. When’s the last time you saw anyone with an lwrci at a prs match.
    I rest my case.
     
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    Why don't you post some results of these matches that you attended? Maybe a picture or two of a Trophy you won at Raton? Or at any PALMA matches?

    After all, you're obsessed with precision shooting and all.
     
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    Well, a friend of mine saw a guy at a match with a home built gun that put'er in at 1/4-MOA.
     
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    Well I mean, they do exist. Mine uses the exact same barrel as my M-24, and it’s best groups get close to my 24’s.

    But I do kind of wonder about the numbers.

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    I just ordered the Colt 901 in6.5 with a 18 inch stainless barrel from ammoland I will put in a CMC trigger and see what she does


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    I built one but it has a larue spec barrel and NM bolt carrier we have the barrel builder of the original Larues in my jurisdiction I get some great barrels .
    Built it on a Mega matched set it has a CMC straight trigger and will shoot shot for shot with my buddies OBR. He likes my rail better but his is prettier it says Larue.


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    Look at the POF revolution in 6.5. Its an AR 15 chassis with an AR 10 caliber. I have a gas piston model in .308 and it is purported to shoot sub MOA. (Just not by me)
     
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    Like I said, I get that they exist.

    But I hear about a whole heck of a lot more sub 1/2 MOA LMT/Larue/LWRC killer built AR’s than I see shooting sub half MOA.
     
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    What is interesting is to search "MOA all day"

    It is an on-line put up or shut up where the shooter has to shoot 5 targets on the same piece of paper with 5 shots.

    Not many people have managed to put five five-shot groups on the same piece of paper.

    But I have heard how people shoot this well day in and day out...

    Now, for a bench rest shooter, that is childs play, but when it requires that the shooter shoots the rifle and not a machine rest or sand bagged down (when you search you can read the "rules") with a rifle that can be used in the field, is a different story.
     
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    A lot of the 6.5CM AR shooters use JP high pressure bolts.
     
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    Lots of moving parts in a gas gun. Makes everything just a little harder to get really small groups.

    Note that bench rest guys are not using semi-autos...

    Even in PRShas different classes for gas guns. PRS has the following rule for gas guns
    "No more than 50% of the stages at a match can utilize an unlimited round count."

    Makes one wonder why gas guns get unlimited round count on some stages?
     
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    It's easy to build them to shoot great, but not many people can shoot tight groups with an AR in 308 Mechanically they are pretty easy to build and dial the Gas system in. I even have the tool to square the front of the 556 and 308 receivers so the barrel extension fits perfectly square.
    That's an often overlooked detail some makers leave out

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    I have one in my 6.5 CM upper But sitting in a Young national match bolt carrier



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    Start with very high quality receivers and you dont need to square them.

    But "perfectly" is always open for interpretation.

    There is always tolerance.

    Also really to really good fitting upper, the barrel extension should be damn near line to line tolerance with the bore in the reciever. You have to freeze a barrel to put the barrel/extension into the receive with line to line or near line to line fit.

    GD&T is a fun world.

    Right now i am arguing over a part that has 6 microns too much total concentricity run out.
     
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    The LW barrels I get all need to be frozen and tapped in my uppers, and you would be surprised even big named high dollar uppers benefit from the Face square tool if one turn does not produce a perfectly uniform bright line I keep turning til it does.