I guess I'll have to practice more before I attend a GSSF match. I switched my stance a couple months ago and I believe my shooting has gotten worse. I went from my left foot being in front of my right and my right arm being straight and the left arm being bent slightly to both feet being the same and both arms being the same. I guess I need to figure out which is best for me. It would be nice if there was a range close by.
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Sounds like you went from Weaver (or modified Weaver) to isosceles.
Weaver has fallen out of favor lately and the pros (that I've observed) are using isosceles. I still see some LE using Weaver, but even they have been switching to isosceles because they say a Weaver presents their body to a spot not covered by their armor. Seems it's generally the older LEOs who have stayed with the Weaver and some LE Instructors don't dissuade it. NRA however, is teaching the isosceles.
You have NO range near you? Maybe an indoor range or a wooded area? Have you checked county or state parks that frequently have ranges - though sometimes unsupervised?
Weaver has fallen out of favor lately and the pros (that I've observed) are using isosceles. I still see some LE using Weaver, but even they have been switching to isosceles because they say a Weaver presents their body to a spot not covered by their armor. Seems it's generally the older LEOs who have stayed with the Weaver and some LE Instructors don't dissuade it. NRA however, is teaching the isosceles.
You have NO range near you? Maybe an indoor range or a wooded area? Have you checked county or state parks that frequently have ranges - though sometimes unsupervised?
Practice or not go have fun! Every time you enter you have a chance to win something no matter how well you do. Always go slow don't rush. Hit your targets and don't worry about your time.
You can practice all you want at a range but when you are being watched and you know there is a timer your practice won't help you much you need the experience as well.
I didn't practice before my first match but I still had fun. I was going to only watch but the nice GSSF members talked me into shooting too and am glad I did.
You can practice all you want at a range but when you are being watched and you know there is a timer your practice won't help you much you need the experience as well.
I didn't practice before my first match but I still had fun. I was going to only watch but the nice GSSF members talked me into shooting too and am glad I did.
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there's no need to prctice before you attend a match. you might want to but there's no need, go ahead and attend and have a good time. i'm not much of a shooter and even less of an instructor but I think you had it right to start with as far as placement of your feet.
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Stands with his back facing the target and shoots with a mirrow over his shoulder. He learned this technique with his "Daisey Red Rider" many years ago. :rofl::faint:
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I just viewed a video I took of BamaTrooper at Dawsonville. He uses the isosceles stance; my video does not show his feet, but he appears to be standing square with the target.
I also made a video of Mark Leeber at the same match which shows his feet. He uses the isosceles, standing square toward the target (neither foot forward of the other). Mark has been a GSSF Master for several years.
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I also have a picture of a smiley face that he shot during the match, on one of the plates on the plate rack.
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I looked at some old pics from random matches and it seems to be mixed on who does what. I will say from the few pics I looked at the shooters I'd like to copy shoot with left foot forward, among them Jim Montomery, Grady Whitelaw, Dwight Parker, and Dennis Kirchoff. Looks like Justin Shurley, Butch, and Steve Dixon square up on the target. I'm suprised at how many photos I have but can't see or tell where the feet are.
Wonder how Mike places his feet? I'm going to copy his stance, and maybe bama's if it's the same as Mike's.
Wonder how Mike places his feet? I'm going to copy his stance, and maybe bama's if it's the same as Mike's.
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The "square toward the target" stance is better when shooting USPSA because targets are often engaged on the left & right, as well as straight ahead. Moving across a wide array of targets is not as easy with the Weaver stance.
If you have to shoot "cross eye dominant", the Weaver does not work so well. I am right-eye-dominant & shoot right handed, but 5 years ago, the retina in my right eye developed a "wrinkle" & now I have to shoot primarily with my left eye & my right hand (I have no plans for learning to shoot left-handed!).
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I think what I use is a modified isoceles. I usually square up on the center of the target array and move my left foot forward about 5-9" (never measured, just use about half of my foot length).
This lets me keep my body armor to the front (at work) and watching some old training videos from force on force training, it appears that that is close to what I resort to when SIMS ammo is being fired. I will say I "turtle" a little more when there are incoming projectiles.
I find the modified iso lets me turn using not only the waist, but the flew of the knees. NEVER been a fan of the full Weaver. Mod iso lets me move in any direction since my stance is fairly balanced and close (doesn't mean squat in GSSF).
This lets me keep my body armor to the front (at work) and watching some old training videos from force on force training, it appears that that is close to what I resort to when SIMS ammo is being fired. I will say I "turtle" a little more when there are incoming projectiles.
I find the modified iso lets me turn using not only the waist, but the flew of the knees. NEVER been a fan of the full Weaver. Mod iso lets me move in any direction since my stance is fairly balanced and close (doesn't mean squat in GSSF).
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