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Post-election lack of sympathy for Sandy victims

Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by F14Scott, Nov 8, 2012.

  1. F14Scott

    F14Scott Luggage CLM

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    Is it just me, or is anyone else feeling few charitable impulses for the Northeast after it voted en masse for B. Hussein?

    http://www.google.com/elections/ed/us/results

    After Katrina, I felt genuine sympathy for the Gulf Coast and NOLA, even for those on the dole and woefully unprepared. I donated to relief efforts. I followed their plight and recovery.

    With Sandy, I am just not moved by the chaos. I have this sense that if they are so enamored by cradle to grave statism, then they are welcome to the poor response by the state. I have this "tough love" feeling, like we, as a country, need to let them suffer through the inadequacy of the federal and state responses so they might remember and learn that such dependence is unwise.

    With Katrina, I picture a giant Charlie Fox after the storm, but mostly ascribe the problems to omission and chaos. With Sandy, I have this gut feeling that those in control are deliberately playing favorites, that organized crime and labor unions have a heavy hand in controlling the relief and infrastructure efforts, and that the politicians played and are playing the event for personal gain (e.g. the Christie and BHO love-fest).

    Maybe it's just my post-election blues, but I currently envision my probably-increasing taxes being offset by a corresponding decrease in charitable giving.

    Anyone else feeling this way?
     
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  2. hamster

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    Not my fault they didn't buy adequate homeowner's insurance.

    Also... if you can't afford to buy insurance and stay a couple of nights in a hotel, you can't afford to buy a house.
     

  3. IceAxe

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    Several of us had this same conversation last night. I can't say how widespread it is but you're certainly far from alone in this.
     
  4. Drjones

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    I didn't have a particularly high level of sympathy for them before. NYC is pretty much a low-level police state with the tens of thousands (millions yet?) of cameras, random stop-and-frisk policy, high-capacity soda ban, etc.

    They seem to like nanny state, let that state take care of you now with Sandy....if it can.

    I've never had much sympathy anyway when I hear of people scrambling to the store for food & batteries in "preparation" for an imminent storm or other disaster. If you don't have a few extra batteries on hand, you've got bigger problems.

    Hell, look at what happened in NYC with those big blackouts a few years ago; people were trapped inside skyscrapers & subways without even a flashlight to light their escape.

    Complete idiots.
     
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  5. quantum36

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    I too feel less sympathy for Sandy victims.
     
  6. walt cowan

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    let them eat the liberal rich.
     
  7. Dennis in MA

    Dennis in MA Get off my lawn

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    Wow. So your level of sympathy for people in need is in direct proportion to their political leanings??? I have saucers deeper than you guys.
     
  8. hamster

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    I have no sympathy for people who purchase homes they can't afford to insure in flood/storm prone areas, who then expect the public to bail them out when the inevitable happens.

    I feel for their loss and inconvenience. Certainly emergency rescue assistance is in order. However I feel no need to pay for any rebuilding.
     
  9. TheExplorer

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    :wow:Some are at 10 days and have no sign of electricity in sight. And now a new storm emerges.
     
  10. SMOKEin

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    The hate is strong in this thread. You do realize that political affiliation does not make the person less of a human/brother? Many people in that region need all the help they can get right now. You're either the type of person who gets involved in situations like this, or you're not. Don't use a lost election or someone's political beliefs be a reason to justify them deserving the situation.
     
  11. mikeflys1

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    Some folks have some different political viewpoints from you and you're happy to see them lose their homes/starve/freeze/whatever?

    Stay classy, bros.
     
  12. 686Owner

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    You do realize a good portion of these people did not vote for Obama? Some of them probably even post here.

    And one of the people not feeling sorry for New Yorkers is from CA? Are you kidding me?
     
  13. hamster

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    Sorry, if you can't afford 10 nights at the motel 6, you can't afford to be a homeowner.

    Low income and fixed income folks stuck in apartments with noplace to go I do have sympathy for on the other hand.
     
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    what about 12 days? 14 days? 27? When will you allow them to buy a house?
     
  15. series1811

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    That's true. I have friends in New Jersey who hate Obama and his policies worse than we do down south. Unfortunately, they have large numbers of the demographics that do love Obama and his policies. Not many of them live near the shore.
     
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    When Katrina hit, people in my area quickly organized to get food, clothes and other things down there as soon as possible. Churches led the way and people took off work for a week at a time to go down there and volunteer their efforts to remove debris, serve food, or whatever else it took.

    I'm only one state over from Louisiana, so it might be a regional thing, but there is none of that here now. I haven't seen a single relief drive for Sandy victims or the clean up effort. Maybe their surounding states are doing that for them but I haven't seen any articles about mass civilian efforts to help them.
     
  17. hamster

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    Lets say a motel 6 20 miles inland costs $100/night after taxes.

    30 nights is $3000.

    If you are so leveraged that you don't have the savings to cover this, then frankly you bought more house than you can afford. Why should poor people who live in modest apartments elsewhere have to cough up the cash to cover the poor lifestyle choices of those folks?

    I don't think being able to support oneself for 30 days is too much to ask of a person. After that, I'd be ok with government assistance.

    What is my limit you ask? 30 days.
     
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  18. F14Scott

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    It's an "Ant and the Grasshopper" reaction. I feel like heavy dependence on the state is akin to dancing all summer. They are not prepared for a natural disaster. They are not properly insured. They did not store adequate supplies. They did not evacuate. They expect the state to bail them out.

    I live in Houston. I know I could be hit with a hurricane. I have lots of insurance, including flood insurance. I have a generator, gas, water, and food stored. If a big enough storm is headed this way, we'll pack up the cars and get out of here.

    I can't understand people who live on a coast and don't think this way, and I lump people who vote for the statist into this category.
     
  19. Drjones

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    I'm not at all happy, and I certainly see nothing in the OP indicating he is either; we're more indifferent.

    Big difference.
     
  20. fnfalman

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    I have no sympathy for anybody but good looking chicks.