Pope should open Vatican City up to fleeing immigrants

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  1. narkcop128

    narkcop128

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    If the Pope is so concerned with immigrants( previously called illegal aliens). I think he should move 20,000 to Vatican City to help out...Come back and lecture America after doing that and I will listen.
     
  2. MajJamesMcFarlane

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    There is a very wide difference between an economic migrant and a refugee. A Mexican who wants a better life in the US is an economic migrant, a Salvadorian who had a note left on his doorstep saying his 16 year old son can either join the gang or get shot is a refugee. Most of what Europe is experiencing right now are refugees fleeing conflicts that the west is largely responsible for fueling. As much as I dislike Bashar and Gadaffi, life for the population tends to be more stable under a dictator than it is under the ruler of the week club that most of Libya and Syria are experiencing.
     
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  3. uhlawpup

    uhlawpup l'Italia s'è desta

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    Perhaps the lecture should start on how Americans have no inkling about geography. You obviously have no idea of the size of Vatican City State, do you.

    But, I could be wrong. So, if you do, please show us how you would house that many people on the territory of the Vatican and its extraterritorial regions.

    Thank you.
     
  4. janice6

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    Maybe if the Vatican accepted 5 new immigrant citizens it would show good faith without unreasonable numbers. Do as I say, not as I do.
     
  5. SC Tiger

    SC Tiger As God as my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.

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    It's 110 acres, or 4.7 million square feet. Not a lot of room.
     
  6. uhlawpup

    uhlawpup l'Italia s'è desta

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    Exactly my point.
     
  7. SC Tiger

    SC Tiger As God as my witness, I thought turkeys could fly.

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    Just backin' ya up.
     
  8. Dennis in MA

    Dennis in MA Get off my lawn

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    Turn the square into a tent city. Another 300-500 in the Basillica.
     
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    It also probably goes down several levels.
     
  10. RenoF250

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    That only makes it slightly less practical than bringing them here. How many should we take? And then do what with them. There is a lot of gold int he Vatican, the Pope could sell that to help the refugees.

    We are not successful here because of the land. We are successful because of the people and our laws. Those refugees would just work to change it to match the area they came from and we would end up like Syria. I think we should help them fix their country but we do not need them here or in Europe.
     
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    Is the Vatican giving any money for refugee support? If not, then why not?
     
  12. tattooo

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    Good question especially when they are one of the richest organizations in the WORLD..... they have their own
    Damn BANK ......
    They can spare some change instead of just taking the talk
     
  13. Rabbi

    Rabbi The Bombdiggity Lifetime Member

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    Why does a church who wants to lecture others that they are not giving enough need a priceless art collection?
     
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  14. BrentC

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    The Vatican already has done this. Not sure of the exact number but somewhere between a few dozen to 100.
     
  15. BrentC

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    I would be willing to bet many on this site own more land than the Vatican site on. The Italian Revolution limited papal land from the size of a large US state to basically the size of a handful of blocks.
     
  16. BrentC

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    The Vatican's charities is I believe 8 figures so I would assume a decent amount goes to refugees.
     
  17. janice6

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    Easy, they take their money and give jobs to build housing straight up. Citizenship, jobs, and housing. Go team. They could also give the Swiss jobs to the Syrians.
     
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    I think this is a very important point about the organization, but I have trouble faulting them too much on this. They could sell their assets, but if their libraries and art collections really are worth preserving through the ages for common human benefit then selling them would be counterproductive in the long run. And being an enormous charitable organization as they are requires having the assets to not be blown about by changing financial weather so they can continue to provide that charity.

    I have a lot of criticism for that particular organization, including how they go about this, but that they go about this is pretty normal.
     
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    In the Christian spirit, I'll donate my tent, I've seen lots of open parks there. His holiness is awful quick to wreck other economies so he appears Christian. Put up or shut up your holiness.