I have a gen 2 G19 that I've put at least 10K rounds through. Love it. The Mrs. Has a gen 2.5 G26 with far fewer rounds and we both love our Glocks. But... Glock is not the only handgun I own and I recently noticed how much better I shoot my Beretta 9mm. And I know why: When I just look at a target and then point my weapon and shoot, not looking at the weapon, not looking at the sights, always just looking at the target, the Beretta will always be closer to the mark than the Glock, despite many, many more rounds of practice through the Glock. I blame the grip angle. If I do the same with the Glock, just point and shoot without looking at the sights, I'm always high. My natural grip just favors the Beretta. With the Glock, I have to train myself to break my wrist and lower my natural point of aim. Once I realized this, I decided to try the same with some of my other 9mm handguns. NOTE: this is really easy to do at home using one of those 9mm laser cartridges. I've had a LaserLyte for years and done countless hours of dry practice with the laser. They are well worth the money. As I was saying, I decided to try other handguns. Walther, Kahr, Kel-Tec and Browning Hi-Power, plus the Beretta mentioned earlier. For me, every one of them was closer to the height of the target when (point and shoot) fired with the laser than was the G19. My natural grip of the G19 always had the muzzle aimed too high. But that's just me. I'm curious though whether or not I'm alone in this. Many people believe that the Glock grip angle is superior. Many believe otherwise. It's very contentious. It might just be the way each of us is built. I've read on the subject and watched a ton of YouTube videos and most everyone goes on comparing angles and such but few actually address the effect it has on a shooter's accuracy. Yes, muscle memory can overcome the grip angle problem but, let's face it, it's going to be easier to develop that muscle memory if your natural grip doesn't have the muzzle pointing way too high to begin with. If one is looking for accuracy, it makes sense to start with a weapon which, when gripped naturally and pointed (not aimed) at the target, is closest to hitting that target. I'd been thinking about a new Gen 4 G19 MOS but, based on the grip angle, I may go with a compact Beretta as my new EDC. Maybe I have weird wrists. Other people rave over the Glock grip angle. Maybe they're just built differently. I'd like to know if anyone has tried the "point and shoot" method and compared various handguns to see which was most suitable for them. You don't need a laser. You can certainly shoot paper at the range, but a laser makes it much easier and you can do it at home. The way I see it (and my Glock and I have been to Front Sight's 4-day Defensive handgun class), in an actual personal defense situation, I may not be cool enough to check the front sight as I would for close shot placement. I may just point and shoot. And if I do that, I want my shots to go as close as they can to what a have as a target. Comments?