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Please Tell Me About Dual-Sports

Discussion in 'Moto Club' started by Anon1, Sep 23, 2005.

  1. Anon1

    Anon1

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    Hello,

    I knew that there had to be a motorcycle section way down here somewhere.

    I want to get a dual-sport type bike. Having ridden forever and raced motocross in the '80s I'm familiar with bikes, just not modern ones.

    Who makes them, models, good, bad, etc. Sell me your used one? Anything?
     
  2. partspin

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    Suzuki makes a hell of a dual sport... the drz400. Check it out. Any bigger and it's tough to toss around on the trail. Any smaller and it's tough to keep up with traffic. This is a great compromise.
     

  3. Anon1

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    I just went and looked at the Suzukis, Kawasakis, and Hondas.

    Is that correct, Honda only makes a 650 that is street legal?

    I checked out that Suzuki DRZ400 and they had another one, a 400SM maybe, that had street tires on it.

    Anybody know about these clones? I saw a couple of Hyosha (sp?) Asaka that look like Honda knock-offs.
     
  4. jww

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    I would stay away from the knock offs. I just dont think the quality is there.

    I currently have a YZ250 with a plate. Its really only good for light street use. By light I mean connecting trails or riding to a buddies house.

    In the past I have had a plated CRF450 and a plated WR250.I would not take any of the bikes on the freeway. They just dont have the power or weight to be safe.

    I dont really know anything about the SM400's except they look bad ass.

    The bike I see most converted is KTM 525's.
     
  5. Jtemple

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    A friend of mine had a XR650L (the Honda street legal one) that he absolutely loved. He's talking about getting another one.

    You can also buy the better-built XR650R, which is the water cooled off-road only version, and get a street legal kit for it, for about $500. The end result is an XR650L with a water cooled engine and more power.

    From what I hear, the XR650R is a monster of a machine. Fast, and durable. I read that it hasn't lost a Baja race that it has entered.

    The XR650R was one of my choices for my first bike. I went with the Suzuki SV650 instead.
     
  6. Timothy658

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    I just purchased my first bike about a week ago, and it is a dual sport. Its a 1975 Honda MT250 Elsinore. Havent ridden it yet, but I think it will be a great bike to learn on. Original condition, 3,000 miles.
     
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    Hey, if it was my money I would definitly, head for Suzuki V-Strom 650 model
    it's a twin engine bike with a great value for the money. It comes with a V-twin
    instead of a single cylinder engine for like other makes. I still want one for
    myself.
     
  9. TreeTrooper

    TreeTrooper Shhhhh...

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    Between my brother and I, we've had 'em all. The Honda 650L was good in the dirt (heavy), but not so good on the street. The DRZ400S sounds like it's going to rev itself apart at 75mph. The dualie that suited both of us the best was the big, overweight, water-cooled Kaw KLR 650. It'll cruise all day at freeway speeds, is as reliable as sunrise, and is capable of decent trailwork if you don't go nuts (that's what I have a KDX 250 in the garage for). The KLR has a HUGE aftermarket, lots of stuff available to personalize/upgrade if you want. Great bike, IMHO. I only take my VFR out if I'm going FAR away, or if I get the urge to get there faster than I can on a DP bike.
     
  10. khaitran

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    I have a Drz-400s, its an awesome bike, great trail riding and i have street tires for it. TreeTrooper is right, anything over 70mph the bikes doesnt like, try riding different bikes, get a feel for what you like.
     
  11. TreeTrooper

    TreeTrooper Shhhhh...

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    The DRZ is a great dirtbike, it's just tough at highway speeds and has a small fuel tank. Now a DRZ 650...
     
  12. xrmattaz

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    ;)Dual sport with character...650 twin!
     
  13. Timothy658

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    Are there any restrictions on dual sport bikes as far as where they can and cannot ride?
     
  14. HKMark23

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    Arguably the best all around DS is the KLR650, its the Jeep of the DS world. Its been around for 10+ years, well proven, has tons of aftermarket support/equipment.

    The KLR has also been adapted as the new bike for US Special Forces and MP/LE duty in diesel form. Its been serving for almost two years now and the company that developed the diesel version is releasing in to the public in a joint venture with Kawi.
    http://www.m1030.com/models.htm

    My current DS is an '04 BMW1150GSA, the Mad Max of the DS world, I love mine on long trips but I want the M1030(KLR) for local jaunts into the sticks.

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    The best DS info you will find is over on www.advrider.com
     
  15. xrmattaz

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    The KLR is actually in it's eighteenth year (current model A-18). Wonderful motorbike with just a few minor quirks that need to be addressed...."Doohickey", etc.

    I just sold my '05 model, though it still sits in the garage waiting for delivery.

    Just recently purchased the '86 Moto Guzzi V65TT for my dual sport duties, also the '03 BMW K1200LT for long distance stuff. I'll miss the KLR though! No motorbike does what she does.

    I've owned the Suzuki DR350/650 and DRZ400. Also the Honda XR600R and XR650R. None of 'em can "do it all" like the KLR can.

    Pic attached of the Guzzi. Ever seen one of these?





    :)
     
  16. xrmattaz

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    Here she is in MY garage, next to my KLR. ;a
     
  17. Anvil

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    Tell you about dual sports....

    I think Dualies are probably the smartest bike you can own. I see big guys like me riding harley's and I say to myself, if they drop that bike, they're gonna pay thousands to fix it right, but if I drop mine, $100 will probably fix whatever breaks. If they make a mistake and drop their rig on themselves, they're gonna REALLY get hurt, me? my bike only weighs 350 pounds, I can almost kick it off me once horizontal (it's happened a few times). If a big bike hits a curb it's gonna HURT, mine just walks over speed bumps, curbs, sidewalks etc. I can't keep up with a hayabusa or zx10 but I'm in no danger of loosing control of my bike like they are either. My KLR walks away from traffic when I want to (though not as fast as I'd like). There's no chrome crap for dualies but rather the aftermarket support is centered around being more practical, tougher, stronger, resilient, whereas crotch rocket and hogs center around chrome, flash and horse power.

    The strongest argument for a dualie is.... you can go where you want. Crotch rockets can only go fast, harleys are flashy with chrome but a good Dual Sport, (my prefered is the KLR 650) can leave the street, go over a sidewalk, climb a curb and roll over those concrete parking logs in parking lots. I can bring dirt riding skills to street riding... no other bike style can.
     
  18. fnfalman

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    I would love to have a dual sport but the one that I want is way too tall for me. The smaller ones just don't have enough oomph for me to feel comfortable with while riding on the street. Well, in California, you have no choice but to ride on lots of streets before you can get to the sticks.
     
  19. khaitran

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    My Drz-400 works great for me, since i live in a small comunity i can ride it into town, and also get, up steep trails. The KLR was a bit too heavy for me so i decided on a lighter bike
     
  20. sillymike

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    DS are all about compromise... They are not excellent at anything in particular, but they are doing a decent job at a lot of things...

    If you were to think of them as girlfriend's, they will cook you a good meal, they'll go to the range with you, they go hiking, they'll take you out to town... Just don't ask her to compete for Ms America, or run the 100m sprint at the olympic!

    I bought a KLR650 last spring and just love it!
    - It's decent on the highway... once you get used to it.
    - It will go just about anywhere off road... if you don't mind slowing down.
    - It has a 6.1G gas tank ;f so you don't have to stop re-fuelling every few minutes.
    - It's been around for quite some time, so they fixed all the bugs...
    - There's nothing electronic on it... so just about anybody can work on it.
    - Did I say it looks good?

    Another good site is http://www.klr650.net tons of info and a good bunch of people!

    If you like going places and are in no rush to get there... give it a try, you'll like it!

    Safe riding,
    Mike.