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Picked up Federal Premium .45 JHP Ammo. Question.

Discussion in 'Caliber Corner' started by Small Tony, Jul 14, 2010.

  1. Small Tony

    Small Tony

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    For self defense I usually use Golden Saber 185 grain JHP. I picked up Federal Premium .45 165 grain hydra-Shok JHP.

    In regards to the grain is the 165 grain to little? Or should I be up around 185 grain.

    Im not an expert on ammo grains. What grain should I be using in self defense? Thanks for advice ahead of time.
     
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  2. Zombie Steve

    Zombie Steve Decap Pin Killa

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    Only rarely do I stray away from 230 grain bullets in SD .45 acp loads.
     

  3. bagballa

    bagballa Tow Member

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    It's still the .45 sized hole either way. IMO 165/185 will get you a little more velocity but the .45acp wasn't meant to be a fast type of round. The FPS you gain from the lighter load may not be worth the extra penetration you'd get from the extra weight.

    Opinions vary.:whistling:
     
  4. BadAndy

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    I personally wouldn't carry anything lighter than 200gr but I would only carry that if I couldn't get hold of anything in 230gr.
     
  5. cowboy1964

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    I'm not a big believer in sectional density but I think 165gr in .45ACP is getting too light.
     
  6. mastrbloata

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    I see that you have a G-30 and an M&P45. I don't know what the barrel length the M&P is but with respect to the 3.78" barrel on the G-30, I'd stick with the 230gr. loadings. With a G-30 barrel using 230gr., it's my understanding that you're losing 50 FPS compared to using the same load in a 5" barrel. However, using 185gr. loads in a G-30, you're losing about 150 FPS from what you'd get from a 5" barrel. That's pretty dramatic. I've told this silly little story before a few times already but I'll tell it anyway. I had a G-30 at the time and I saw this GS 185gr. +P test in some gun rag used against gel, fired from 5" 1911. Well, it was impressive with a huge stretch cavity and 12" of penetration. So I run out there a buy a slew of them. Problem is though, moving at a 150FPS less, the bullet isn't going to perform like that. (Likely wouldn't.) Also, GS's are jacket shedders unless they are bonded. (That's going to get me flamed for sure...) I might look at 185gr. loads in 4.5" to 5" barrels but with the G-30, I'd stay with 230gr. I wouldn't bother with 165gr. .45acp at all. Good luck what ever happens.
     
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    SecDen is relavent if bullet construction is th same. IMO, the 165grJHP is going to be light on penetration. They also keep the vel down to prevent fragmentation & enhance recoil control. Just not my choice. I have no issue w/ some 185grJHP loads, the 185grRGS is a great round. If oy ulike the lt.wt. try the 185gr-200grXTP.
     
  8. Ak.Hiker

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    I would not go below 185 grain in 45 acp myself with the 230 being my favorite. I doubt that the 165's will penetrate as deep as the heavier bullets. It really depends on your SD needs.
     
  9. MURRAY

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    I like 230 230 or 230 in 45 ACP but that light a load may work