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Discussion in 'Cop Talk' started by new2town, Nov 8, 2010.
At what distance are your Dept. patrol rifles zeroed for? Speaking of AR style .223s.
Only some officers have rifles at our dept, either specifically issued or personally bought
100 yards with iron sights (must have them)
Anything you want with optics (optional to buy your own)
There is talk of changing that to 50 yards, but hasn't happened yet
We have a neutral zero on ours, which is supposed to be picked up by anyone who trains with that method and used somewhat effectively. We shoot at 50 yards for qualification, and are expected to be able to hit further if necessary. Personally I don't care for it. I think that we should be battle sight zeroed to 300 meters, of course that is the old US Army thinking that I have about it.
With the semi-auto M-4 I used to carry I had to shoot at 50, 100 and 200 yards. It was a combined total for pass or fail. It was really pretty easy.
The few times my unit had to use them it was under 50 yards!
We recently have gone to the 40/240 zero. You are 1" low @ 25 yrs. , zeroed @ 40yrds. Then it will rise to max. ordinate of 2.5" @ 107 yrds. then be on again @ 240. Then 2.5" low again @ 268yrds. This gives you a 2.5" variable out to 268yrds. This we picked up from John Farnam. Just wondering what others do.
I forgot to mention that ours were zeroed in at 100 yards!
Standard 50- yard zero gives 0-200 yard capability.
We zeroed our rifles at 100 yards. We qualify twice a year with a 20 round course from 25 to 100 yards.
Officers can use a department issued Bushmaster AR or their own, as long as they qualify with them. Optics are okay as well.
I use my own Colt AR15A3 Tactical Carbine with an Eotech 512.
Like Bwana, one of the best overall for practical police applications is the 50M zero which gets you good to go from 0-200 with neglible need for holdover or under at expected distances. This coupled with many ranges can't get out over 50 or 100m also puts it high on my list
The course of fire is no challenge whatsoever. I imagine I could qualify with the sights removed.
50 yards for our pool rifles. I think SWAT can choose their own zeros because I have seen three targets in the range with 25, 50, and 100 yard zeros. I think most use 50 since that is what they will use if one of their rifles goes down.
Department AR's were zeroed 1" low at 25. My personal AR is zeroed at 50.
No optic allowed and shortly after I came out of the academy a policy changed required use of the issued rifle.
Iron sights required. Optics optional. On the qual we shoot from several stations/positions from 0 - 100 yards.
100 yard zero using iron sights. 60-round qualification course from 100 yards on in to 15 yards.
We have Bushmaster semi M4 and shoot them with open sites 38 rounds form 2,5,15,25 and 100 yards in three position.
They are sited in for 6 o'lock of the 10 (center) ring on 100 yards.
The 50 yard zero is now standard for all department owned Bushy 1:9 and Colt 6520s 1:7. Department rifles are irons only due to the patrol rifle rack setup in the cars. Personally owned rifles are also zeroed to 50 yards to meet that requirement (those who own and deploy use red dots). And to add, 75gn TAP as the load.
Only our SWAT guys carry rifles - I don't know where the zero is. Most of patrol uses MP5 9mm, zeroed at 25 yards.
Our M4's are generally zeroed at 50 yds.
50 yds and closer are the ranges we qualify with them.
No optic allowed? That seems kinda stupid...
Battlefield ZERO... 300 Meters