[burntmypiston]

Trying to decide which one I want for the long haul. Both are NIB and the same price. The ParaUSA is a 45ACP and the Sig is a 9x19. All other things equal, which would you choose and why?

 

[MacG22]

I'm not a big fan of the Para 1911's. I am, however, a huge fan of the Sig 2022. I think it's one of the most underrated poly pistols on the market today. From the bench the mechanical accuracy is really, really nice.

Here's what I'd suggest.

I have come to believe that we should only really buy the guns we really want to have. It needs to be useful or beautiful to us. This isn't about a number... maybe you really want 150 guns. Good on you. But many of us buy "intermediate" steps that don't help us too much.

In this case, I think you'll really enjoy the 2022 once you get it on the range. If mine had not been stolen I would never have parted with it. So I think you'll enjoy it and value it.

The para.... you'll only have it long enough to trade it in on a different 1911. It's not the 1911 to keep. I would recommend waiting (either foregoing the 2022 and saving a bit more for an STI Spartan, Colt Series 70, etc, or buying the 2022 and then resaving for a bit) for something better than the para to get a 1911. I'm a huge 1911 fan, and that's why I recommend getting what you really want. A good 1911 is love, and your first one should be something you'd be willing to hang on to and hand down later in life.

 

[Rinspeed]

It might not be what you want to hear but I'm not big on either one of them. I love Sigs but only the classics, Paras on the other hand just don't do it for me. They are the king of marginal cast parts. Not sure if they still do it but at one point some genius in the company decided they would produce a cast extractor, the most important part of a 1911. :upeyes: I suggest buying a used $800 1911 you can pick up for $600 (S&W, older Kimber or SA) or a used Sig 229, HK USP.

 

[burntmypiston]

Well, I'm picking up the Sig tomorrow. I like polymer and I like the 9x19, so I'm thinking this will be a keeper unless there's some surprises when I fire it. I think my only concern is how well the Nitron finish will hold up with holstering and the moist NC climate.

 

[MD357]

Neither, there are better Sigs and better 1911s out there.

 

[paul45]

The Sig 2022 has a HUGE following on SigForum. I had one, it performed quite well, and foolishly sold it. I would buy another. I, personally, would not buy a Para.

 

[chuckman]

Well, I'm picking up the Sig tomorrow. I like polymer and I like the 9x19, so I'm thinking this will be a keeper unless there's some surprises when I fire it. I think my only concern is how well the Nitron finish will hold up with holstering and the moist NC climate.

I have SIG with Nitron and it does quite well in the NC weather as long as you clean it and take care of it as you should (like any gun). I like the 2022. As for 1911s, there are better ones around the same price as the Para, so when you are in the mood for a 1911, I would look elsewhere.

 

[watarski]

Of the Sigs I've had/have, I like the 2022 the best. Great trigger, great accuracy - and my wife shoots laser beams with it :rofl:

I think you picked the better of the 2 choices, especially at that price point. I think Mac nailed it - you'd be wanting more after buying the Para.

 

[MacG22]

Well, I'm picking up the Sig tomorrow. I like polymer and I like the 9x19, so I'm thinking this will be a keeper unless there's some surprises when I fire it. I think my only concern is how well the Nitron finish will hold up with holstering and the moist NC climate.

Be sure to post pictures. We'll all be waiting.


And don't forget to put the SS guide rod in this one. Some guns I don't notice the guide rod, some I do. It doesn't change the accuracy from the bench, but it does help me get quicker follow ups on drills.

My friends and I took two copies of something like 10 guns. We put a heavier steel rod in one, and left the other stock (after shooting targets with both guns at stock as a control). Hk's. Glocks. Sigs. And few others. I was mostly testing the Glock 22, 17, 19, and the Sig 2022, 229, 226, 239.

I noticed a consistent marked improvement with the G19, the 2022, and the 239. Consistent. Couldn't deny it. Most just with tighter groups as I moved and shot fast. With the others there was no real difference. It's just a sigh radius, weight ratio thing, IMO. But the 2022 with the guide rod was so good that it made the targets look like my 1911 targets...and no other poly gun has ever done that. And I was able to replicate that a few times, on good days. I had the .40cal, too.

I recommend Steve Bedair's rods:
http://guiderod.com/

 

[burntmypiston]

Picked up the 2022 today. I'm really impressed. Fits my hand like a glove and has a great trigger. Not sure why these are not more popular. Maybe just the lack of marketing, as it seems to be one hell of a deal.

I'll pick up one of the guide rods quickly also based on the report.

Overall, I couldn't be happier with the Sig. Thanks to all for the input. Now feel free to send me all of your 9x19 ammo for evaluation!

 

[hi-power man]

I have two 2022's - one 9 mm and one 40 S&W. They have great triggers, are very accurate and very easy to carry. This is the 40 S&W.

 

[SIGSAREBETTER]

I think you chose wisely, I love my 2009.

 

[txgolfer45]

Get the Para GI Expert. I own one and it is a very solid performer and at a very reasonable price. It's not pretty. But, it works!

 

[MacG22]

any pictures yet?

 

[JK-linux]

Neither, but I'd grab the Para if I had to. Snag a used Norinco for less cash and add whatever sights, grips, etc you like with the extra cash.