P80 vs. Gen 1 (AF Prefix) Comparison

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  1. patcrad

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    Obvious which is which...

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    Interestingly, the AF slide fit perfectly onto the P80 receiver and functioned during dry fire. The P80 slide did not go (easily) onto the AF receiver, and I did not push past the felt resistance. Anyone else have different results?
     
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    Thanks for posting these. While lots of folks will buy them and it isn’t a bad marketing move on Glocks part, if I want a Gen1, I’ll ante up the cash for a real one.
     
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    Awesome post Pat. Thank u!!

    I plan to pick mine up a week from today.

    I will post similar photos using an early (AB100s) AB prefix gun that was close in production time to the original P 80s .

    The point will be to demonstrate what the originals most closely looked like with no US markings on the frame and no seal number plate etc

    I will also post comparison photos with an original P80 magazine and the original box for the AB prefix.

    Interestingly and as I noted a week or 2 ago, while the guns that were produced around when the original P 80s were had labels consisting only of a white sticker on the top of the lid with the hand written serial number ,the P80 case in the P80 manual from 1983 actually shows a sticker similar to the AF guns except in German.

    I have a original examples of both types of boxes and I will post photos of both of them along with the relevant page of the original P80 manual that I was lucky enough to get from a friend in Europe.

    I've posted all this stuff before in different threads but I will post it all-in-one place after I pick my guns up.
     
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    WHY did Glock have to seal these in plastic??? In order to do the comparison photos I want to do and obviously to see the guns I have to open the plastic but I collect NIB. The conundrum..... ugh

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    Very cool post! Thank you.
     
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    I didn’t have this conundrum. My FFL has already opened it as part of routine processing for their paperwork. I guess they have to confirm the serial number of the actual pistol with the transfer documents???


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    Guess you'll have to buy a third one just for pictures

    But to Pat's point, as a dealer, I would 100% confirm the serial number on the physical gun as well so I'd have to cut open the plastic.
     
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    Depends on the FFL. Mine either has me come by and I open the box or he just leaves it sealed because he knows I'm a NIB freak.
     
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    Thing is, I'd leave the third one sealed also.

    I have a couple other guns that I purchased from a different FFL that are still sealed in their original boxes never opened.

    The fact that a lot of FF l's will open them only makes the sealed ones more rare in my opinion but of course I cant enjoy them as much either.
     
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    What's interesting about the ATF is that they are really only concerned with your log book and your current inventory. So if your FFL trusts the label and uses the serial number to log it in to his book and then the same number on your 4473, then his books will be in good order and he's fine. BUT, if they were to inspect him while he had a sealed gun in inventory, they would definitely make you look at the physical gun itself. Once it's out of his log book, the only danger would be if there was a trace on the serial number later on down the road and that the serial number DIDN'T actually match.
     
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    patcrad, would you consider the Gen 1 AF rear sight to be 6.1 or 6.5 mm?

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    I will always remember watching an FFL finger [email protected]*k my NIB Colt Python Snake Eyes to "find the serial number". Yeah, safe to say I never transferred there again.
     
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    Not sure I understand the question. The AF has the original weekend adjustable sight. There was no other variant at the time. I assume your asking about different height options like current fixed sights?


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    Thank You!

    My AF Gen 1 that I acquired in 1990 had a replacement steel rear sight. It had seen rough treatment in Central and South America. At least I know the former owner and some of it’s history ;-)
     
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    I just spoke to a curator at NRA firearms museum. He said if you open the plastic covering on the new P80 retro guns, you will reduce the overall value by approximately .10 cents.
     
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    Exactly. I’ve got an AT GEN 1
     
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    Other than Glockhoarder, I'm not sure anyone bought the new P80 to keep. A GB search for "Glock Gen 1" now returns 3 pages of P80s! :brickwall:
     
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    I'm keeping mine :)
     
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    Just for the record, I didn't buy one to keep - I bought TWO to keep :)
     
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