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+P Ammo

Discussion in 'Caliber Corner' started by Civilian sheep Dog, Mar 19, 2010.

  1. Civilian sheep Dog

    Civilian sheep Dog

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    Hey guys curious if anyone here uses +P Ammo with their glocks?
    Does it make a big difference then non +P ammo? Just picked up a box of Winchester bonded pdx1 for my G17 20rds for 20 bucks...:faint: (impulse buy) Figure I would try em out. :dunno:
     
  2. N/Apower

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    The G17 functions best with +P and +P+ ammunition. I strongly feel that it is set up to function optimally with +P loadings in the 124gr weight.
     

  3. unit1069

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    I use +P ammo in one 9mm pistol I own, but that's because it provides the best shooting characteristics with that particular gun. I personally don't think the extra 50 fps and slight increase in energy would make much of a difference through a G-17.
     
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    I think it does. Here is why:

    The G17 is a polymer gun. It has a good bit of "flex" to it, even compared to other polymer pistols. Glock is also made across the pond. In Europe, 9mm ammo is loaded hotter, usually right around +P by our standards, from what I understand.

    +P or +P+ ammo will provide extra insurance against limp-wristing the G17 with it's flexy frame and it being sprung for the equivalent of +P 124gr ammo, the way I understand it.

    PS. If you meant "terminally", then no, I doubt it does make much difference.
     
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  5. Jeepnik

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    I've used +p in a Glock 30. Bit more recoil, quit a bit more muzzle flash (enough so that I wonder about it's effect on night vision in a low light situation). I'm not sure that out of the 30's shorter barrel, you are gaining anything.
     
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    How about compared to your hand and arm?
     
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    My hand and arm are a given no matter what I shoot. The flex of the Glock is just another tolerance added to the stack.
     
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    Not if it isn't the limiting factor.
     
  9. N/Apower

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    1+2=3
    1+1=2

    Tolerance stacking. It's real.

    If you have ever shot a G17 and an all metal 9mm like a CZ or P226 ST, you will see what I mean. Just try to limp-wrist them and see how much more it takes than the G17.
     
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    One of the factors to consider with the + rounds is that it will cycle guns that are dirty, muddy, bloody or whatever when the regular rounds may not.
     
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    Might be true, but I haven't trired it with +p ammo. In fact, really the only firearms that are fired when in these conditions apply to military (few of us will ever again roll around in the mud in a life and death struggle involving contact distance shooting, but I know that good ole hardball will work), and they don't use +p. Although the 9mm NATO, is a bit hotter than conventional ammo.
     
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  12. N/Apower

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    Actually:

    -Todd Green, posted on M4Carbine.net

    So if you shoot high-volume, it could apply to you too.
     
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    So what you are saying is that for the non military shooter, who is too lazy to clean his firearm, +p might extend the time until malfunctions occur. Seems to me, it'd be easier just to clean the darned thing.
     
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    Sure, it would, but during some of the training courses at Gunsite, etc. you might end up shooting the thing quite a bit before it becomes convenient.

    Either way, I would rather carry the ammo that insured function the best.
     
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  15. DEADEYEGUY

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    I've shot 124gr. +p through my Glocks and Winchester Ranger 127gr.+P+ loads. Never any problems. You feel a little more recoil with them but it'a really not bad. Carry Winchester 230gr. +P+ in my G30. It's stout but nothing the gun or shooter should have a problem with.