No, the 9mm hasn't changed as far as SAAMI pressure standards are concerned +P+ is simply over pressured ammo.That's the other question I had is what 9mms guns are safe with +p+. Also most all 357sig is not loaded to 1350 except underwood, dtap and BBore. So if I can get a 9mm in a g26 this close what will a full size do. I have a 357 and love it but ball is expensive and hard to find. So if I can get a 9 within a few feet from what most all 357 is loaded to now, watered down or not, just shows the 9mm has come a long way.
Jambog, not quite yet.
Agree. I love the 9mm round and it does just fine at its std and +P pressures. While not especially a .357 sig fan, it's a hotter round in any reasonable comparison, you get less capacity in exchange for that extra power.I think the question is sort-of unfair, as you're comparing a maxed-out 9mm round to a downloaded 357. When you compare hot-rodded rounds against each other, the 9mm falls very short.
That said, comparing your rounds still shows the 357 with a slight edge, and it's benefit is that it is not an unstable, overpressured round. I'd rather have the 357 than the +P+ 9mm, because it's not pushing the limits of safety and durability of the weapon.
God no. Definitely don't run that through your Hi Power, especially an older forged model.Thanks guys that's what i wanted to know, so I won't be shooting any in my hipower. I really do love the 357 sig round but damn its pricy for ball. Not at all as far as jhps though. I guess I need to start loading for it myself.
My G26 will bust off 124 gr gold dots @1200+ all day long according to a pro chrony.Agree. I love the 9mm round and it does just fine at its std and +P pressures. While not especially a .357 sig fan, it's a hotter round in any reasonable comparison, you get less capacity in exchange for that extra power.
I've never seen +p factory 124gr Gold Dots break 1200fps in anything but my Sterling Carbine. In a 4" Luger and just under 5" BHP clone they hug 1200fps on a warm day.
If the extra 200fps was crucial, I'd just use a gun designed for the round vs relying on maxed out over pressures.
I'm more lenient with something like .38sp or .44sp with today's watered down pressures and performance, but the nine already operates in a pretty high pressure range, those big cased revolver rounds don't.
Glocks are known for 'fast' bbls....yours is a little faster it appears. I have guns like that too.My G26 will bust off 124 gr gold dots @1200+ all day long according to a pro chrony.