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Discussion in 'The Okie Corral' started by Valmet, Aug 4, 2020.
TCM runs the uncut version, afaik.
Just about all of Welles’ stuff is disappointing. “Kane” is technically interesting, but boring - and an inaccurate hit job. Even when he has a good story - like “The Third Man” - he bollixes it up with (in that case) a weird music track or some bizarre characterization. He once had Charlton Heston playing a Mexican detective. The man was talented as all getout, but basically was a 400 hp V8 connected to a two speed automatic transmission.
Nope. It's not a big deal, just some breastssssss. I wasn't really serious --- just trying to be funny. And, well, I like boobs. There's that.
Anyway the home versions of the film are mostly intact .. Cybill is still topless in a couple scenes, just more briefly than original. But getting technical about it, all the home releases have had scenes cut or cropped vs. the original cut.
Top: home release versions
Bottom: original screens.
(Censored for GT consumption, of course)
That whole sequence of her on the diving board and the boy in the pool right in front of her is like the second photo above afaik, not the cropped frames as above.
It was Dennis Hopper's movie and he had a good part, but as everyone knows Jack Nicholson stole the movie and made him the mega-star he became. I thought it was great when I saw it in the theater in 1970, but when I watched it again about ten years ago I was embarrassed for myself.
Casablanca is still a great movie. So is Citizen Kane, the Godfather and West Side Story (if you like musicals). Easy Rider was never a very good, certainly not a classic movie.
No love for the zither?
Gone With the Wind. Just not my thing, I suppose. It's very boring to me.
I watched Super troopers last night... you need to be drinking to enjoy anything but the T shots. (Forget the A shots)
If I had the time I would meow scrub the internet for any time I might have suggested it.
Jeremiah Johnson continues to hold up well.
This was going to be my serious answer. Saw it in the 90s and thought "What's the big deal?"
I can't stand any of the older classic movies, I've tried to watch a bunch on TCM.
Citizen Kane - terrible, really unwatchable
John Wayne movies - a terrible actor, though the ideals the movies portrayed were very admirable.
Gone with the wind - awful
I could go on and on...
I think the reason is, a movie is popular (or not) in it's era largely because of the prevailing attitudes and technology of that period. It is unfair to judge it in a more modern period because those things change to such a large extent that it becomes futile. Dialogue and behavior are dated, and any effects are laughable.
Here's a funny example of those generational differences, this made me laugh for 10 minutes yesterday.
I'm watching a series on Netflix called Dead to Me. I turned it on at first because I recognized Kelly Bundy and I always liked Married with Children.
There's a scene where she is bribing a teen to take an Instagram picture down. They agree on an amount, and she starts to write a check.
The teen looks confused and says - what are you drawing there? Venmo me.
For some reason that hit my funny bone hard.
In a few years though, that dialogue won't even make any sense, right?
I'll just say "The Sand Pebbles" gets better every time I watch it.
An Officer and a Gentleman. When it came out, people were raving about it. My wife and I thought it was just plain LAME.
Streetcar Named Desire
2001: A Space Odyssey... one of the worst movies ever created.
I'm sure I'm unusual, but I'd say almost every movie made before 1980. I've watched many of the famous old movies and almost always come away wondering why anybody would like them.
Raising Arizona. Holly Hunter (mmm....) and the Lone Biker of the Apocalypse.
Awesome! Well, the first time.
Second time around and many years after I first saw it and loved it, it did nothing for me. Some movies I guess are "one and done."
Agreed. Holly Hunter was a fox in that movie.
It is brought up here every now and then, but, to me, it just gets worse with time. Kelly McGillis being cast in this film was the HUGEST mistake...EVER!!! Also, the portrayal of naval officers was just way too juvenile. I've been around tons of USMC pilots and many naval pilots, and this movie's portrayal is ridiculous. However, I'm really hoping they hit a homer with this new one coming out next year.