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Out of State Pistol Sale

Discussion in 'GSSF' started by mdfd, Jan 29, 2010.

  1. mdfd

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    Sorry for the basic q, but this will be the first time I will be purchasing a used gun from an individual in another state. I do not know the individual personally, just that he is a member on a forum I frequent as well...It is a used pistol in "like new" condition as he indicates in his description and pics as well.

    I realize he has to ship to my local FFL which accepts from individuals...

    So my question is:

    What is the recommended general procedure or steps to properly complete this transaction and what paperwork/record should I expect at what point in the transaction?

    I would imagine the steps to be something like this (pls correct/add):
    1. Agree on price/terms
    2. Seller sends payment info: name and address (anything else?) to Buyer
    3. Buyer let's his local FFL know to be expecting a package from Seller.
    4. Buyer sends his local FFL's name and shipping address along with payment to Seller (Seller is requesting USPS money order)

    Should I expect some sort of "Bill of sale" or "Transfer of Firearm" to be included with the pistol from the buyer or should I specifically outline and request this?

    Also, what protection/recourse do I have in case the seller receives my money and decides not to ship the firearm?

    I have bought from private individuals in-state and typically fill out a generic Bill of Sale with both our FOIDs (required in ILLinios) and signatures on the document (I bring a template if the seller does not have one).

    I'd appreciate guidance from those who have done out of state pistol purchases from private individuals successsfully.
    Thanks in advance!:wavey:
     
  2. Mongosafari

    Mongosafari El diablo verde

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    You have agreed on a price.
    You send check or Money Order with copy of your local FFL .
    He ships the gun to the FFL. Receipt is nice but not manditory.
    Your FFL executes 4473 and makes NICS check, receives small fee (I charge $20)
    You leave with firearm (waiting period in your state?)

    If he never ships the gun you can go after in small claims court.

    Ask for a Bill of Sale. I'm sure he will accomodate you.
     

  3. mdfd

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    thanks Mongo! Good to know there are no surprises...:wavey:
     
  4. Rinspeed

    Rinspeed JAFO

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    Depending on the selling price most of the time I make it a point to get the sellers home phone number. On high dollar items not only do I verify phone number but I will actually call them.
     
  5. Mongosafari

    Mongosafari El diablo verde

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    Excellent point.

    If someone is willing to take your money but won't give you a phone number and talk to you- don't do the deal.
     
  6. Messer

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    Paying by USPS money order is a good idea - this way if there are problems, you can get the post office involved quickly.

    Another thing to think about - I always ask for a set inspection time. This way, if the item does not live up to it's description, it's already understood you can send it back within a certain time frame.

    Good luck,
    Bob S.
     
  7. mixflip

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    What about buying a gun at a gunshow/gunshop across state lines in person? Do you buy the gun at the gunshow/gunshop then have them ship it to your state to your local FFL of your choosing?
     
  8. Messer

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    If it's a handgun, it must go through a FFL in your state. I've bought rifles and shotguns in other states in person with no trouble, but I think it depends on your home state - in Virginia it's not a problem.

    Take care,
    Bob S.