I'd like to know the following: 1) What, in your opinion is the fundamental goal? In CA, for instance, it seems a little odd that a bunch of guys would open carry unloaded weapons into a Coffee shop. Such a display also seems unlikely to "convert" people over and give them "warm fuzzies" about guns. What I've seen so far is that the open carry advocates 1) find reasons to scrutinize LE, and 2) find reasons to scrutinize small businesses. I don't see how either furthers acceptance of our 2nd Amendment rights. 2) What has the "open carry movement" accomplished? I'm looking for tangible "wins" for us 2nd Amendment proponents.