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Discussion in 'Rimfire Forum' started by Grabbrass, Jul 4, 2020.
Yes I agree but the ones I’ve been seeing are kinda pricey in my book...
I only own the M&P 15-22, but it is damn near impossible to shoot it without finding a big smile creeping over your face...
concur; got rid of first 15-22 shortly after picking up takedown last year, then ended up reconsidering decision & recently reacquired one. won't make that mistake again.
You would be well served by either.
But, I would go with the 10/22.
It's been around forever and I don't see Ruger discontinuing it any time soon. EVERY part can be replaced by OEM or aftermarket. It is absolutely infinitely customizable.
It can be turned into anything you want; AR, MG42, M1 carbine, Tommy Gun, bullpup, etc.
Magazines are very durable and compact (10 rounders).
The rifle is very durable. I have had mine since 1988 when my dad gave it to me and it was given to him in 1965 by my mom.
Enjoy whichever one you get.
For me it would be the 10/22.
So many choices in the 10/22 line and lots of aftermarket if you like to tinker.
I like Smith & Wesson for revolvers, but not much else.
The MP15-22 is sexier, but the 10-22 is probably simpler, sturdier, has more available accessories, is less likely to run afoul of anti-gun legislation.
You need to consider what's the present and future purpose of this firearm.
I like my 15-22, but you can do a lot to upgrade your 10-22., triggers , barrels endless items.
I have a Charger and my only gripe is with the wood stock acting as the magwell, you see lots of different opinions on what is a reliable mag and I think it’s this variance that’s the cause of it. There’s fixes for it, but the 15-22 is really the better choice for an out of the box don’t wanna mess with it option.
best reason for a 10/22 or Charger is my GSG 110 round drum.
And the fact that either option plus the drum is much cheaper than the 15-22.
My Charger is the takedown version and if I had to do it all over again, I’d skip the takedown. For my needs the cons outweigh the pros.
I havent had any experience with the S&W AR semiclone but I did buy a 10-22 sporter in or about 1968 for the exhorbitant sum of 87.50$. Its light, handy, accurate, reliable, dependable and on. It has hiccuped on some white box super cheap ammo, but on quality stuff it has been flawless. I like it because its traditional walnut and blued steel.
The S&W is just another good mechanism in a different outfit. Just like buying a car. Interstate cruiser, in town commuter or rock crawler. Purposes like AR series intro and traing, this would certainly be ideal.
I understand what you're saying, but must make the point (at least for myself) that my choices can't be because I fear that someone in the Govt is coming for them. That said, I won't make them for the opposite reason either.
But that could also be a negative...
What started as a fun shooter becomes an obsession....
I’ve decided, just recently, to build a 10/22. I really thought about buying a cmmg dedicated 22lr upper, but at the end of the day the accessories and parts available for the 10/22 made it an easy decision.
I looked into 22lr conversions and uppers before I got my 10/22. There's too many negatives for me to screw up an AR just to shoot 22lr on it. I also considered the M&P15-22 but thought it was too bulky for a fun 22 plinker.
Exactly. There’s too many proprietary designs. Ultimately, a 10/22 is the AR of the 22lr world .
Had I known then what I know now, I would've just bought a 10/22 receiver and start from there. But then I wouldn't have the cool little takedown bag .
But a conversion upper seems like it could have some benefits.
Can plink with cheap ammo.
For non-match practical course practice, same feel as regular AR so good practice.
With registered lower can be NFA.
Yes, there are benefits for some but I was strictly talking about MY needs.
22lr conversions are hard on AR lowers and if you have aftermarket triggers, can damage or break them. That's why I started looking at the MP15-22. Then I realized that I'd rather have a 10/22 over a faux AR.
aired out 15-22 this afternoon. wanted to test new volquartsen extractor on some random fodder & ran without a hitch on everything except the quiet stuff, which literally turned it into a single shot as to be expected.
I've never heard about .22lr conversions being hard on a lower. Can't say I have experienced any issues with mine.
I don't like AR's so I don't want an AR look-alike. However, I do like M1 carbines and there are 10-22 kits based on M1 Carbines .
There are two things that will most improve the accuracy of the 10-22 with the least amount of modification. One is a custom trigger and even the Ruger BX trigger is pretty good.
The other thing that is helpful either with a standard barrel or a bull barrel, is the Tactical Innovations Adjustable V-Block which prevent barrel droop and tightens the barrel square to the receiver.
The next step up in accuracy improvement with a 10-22 is a bull Barrel but that requires a custom stock. The exception to that is the Ruger 10-22 charger which already has a free floated heavy barrel and after market brarrels will fit in the same stock. Also I think standard barrels can be but for a Bentz match chamber but I doun't know if that requires milling the breech face.