This thread reminded me of something I was thinking about a while back, but forgot to post. http://strengthmill.net/forum/showthread.php?t=5513 Now you guys know that I really like watching Olifts and doing lifts such as power cleans, so I'm not an Olift-hater. That being typed, what is the evidence--surely there is some--that cleans and other similar exercises bring about *increases* in explosiveness? My thought is that it's a chicken and egg thing--which came first. Looking back to my limited personal experience, I THINK that my power cleans *measured* my level of explosiveness, as compared to mostly-static strength such as in the DL, rather than increased it. My power clean has always been a very high percentage (70%+) of my DL, even from the beginning. I am not sure at all about this, though, and am wondering what you guys think about it.