My 10mm friends... PLEASE read ALL this. Take the time and just do it. I believe it will bless ya if ya will...
NO spell check, and I can't spell worth a rip and I am hurry, lots going on, so just hang with me my friends ! haha.
Kinda long, but I do believe it willbe VERY interesting if you all will hang in there with me. If not.. Then I am appologize!
Well I had a PC tonight so I thought I'd through this in.
I hope its OK "NICK",
and is conducive to the thread theme....
Now before y'all look at the link. (
below). Allow me please to add, that in all the discussion here 'on this link' (and it is
NOT all I wanted to say or "preach," Ha.)
I did NOT mention the 10mm.
Sooooo, as I am dropping the link here on this thread and y'all can look and read for your yourselves, ( I ran out of "image allowance" or would have posted more "game pics"/ "Test pics") but was on CC and answering something conducive to the 44mag question. So, allow me to say this
in the theme of hunting and '10 mm's."
http://www.glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1386204 POST # 23 and 26
Look at the HP cast bullet my amigo and shooting Pard at Hunter Supply has just introduced into his line of "high quality HC bullets for hunting."
No, I am not the kinda guy to turn y'all on to something 'just because my friend owns the compnay'. I got good shooting buds that own lots of things, and would not advise ya to use their stuff. Uh oh ! haha.
BUT. I "know" there is a star trek sorta outter space vulcan trend/desire from a few of my friends around here to use 135gr bullets that circle the globe
from 10mm's. (
stay with me boys please)...
Although I do not agree on this weight for SD or hunting, I know some of you like this weight, and some of you want a HC bullet, but 'by law' have to use a HP, or by desire 'want to use a HP in Hard Cast' bullet in 135gr.
My friend JR has sent me 2,500 HP HC bullets as most of you know, in 500 each for 5 different calibers to help test for him. I am a busy man. !
I test them in solid chunks of hind quarters, and guts, covered with real jackets and hard core clothes, and various other media, NOT just water bottles. ( i mean that sweet Ha.) So I am very busy.
I do not always take pics as we have done this since i was a kid and just never thought about camera's. It is just what we do out here.
Anyway. For
you /us 10mm guys that want a 135gr bullet that will kick Noslers butt, I suggest you try this 135gr Hard Cast HP (Pentagaon Hollow Point) from HS.
http://www.hunters-supply.com/
Now, the velocity window is still holding this bullet together through hard core bone and flesh etc, at 1300fps. It WILL NOT FRAG ! It WILL frag at higer speeds (typo corrected and humbly so) :embarrassed:
Ok, just dropping this on ya even in my old timer knot headed, do not agree set in my ways stuff.
Because I am a nice guy ! :whistling: haha. And thought I'd share with you nut jobs (i mean my friends) that you can have a bullet in 135gr,
that is not going to FRAG like a Nosler, and will penetrate a vault door (so to speak, ha) and you will, as I said before, "WILL get more penetration" and still be able to to your speed gig,
and have a more reliable bullet. Check it out. It will not cost ya but a few $$$ at most.
I am somtimes reluctant to say to much on these forums so I do not look like a smart guy or a wise acre, but I have been doing this for 50 years.
I DO NOT know everything. I am VERY old fashion :fred: and set in my ways. But what I have done and used and all the guiding and living on the ranch all my life and being blessed to do so very much more than I deserve. I have seen and done a thing or two.
Many and most, are smarter than I, but I have picked up a thing or two.
I been blessed to have friends like John Taffin, and Jack Wilson, and several others to have learned from over the years, and I love all this like y'all do.
So, I am on back meds tonight, and I am in A jolly mood ! haha. And though I hope
Nick does not mind me posting this
on this particular thread.
Now, BTW... This is my coming out of the closet time: I am a EDC "in town," 45acp M1911 guy as y'all know. BUT, I have 'secretly' been doing a looooooot of work and experinmentation ( i can't spell for heck, haha), with the
G29.
I have loaded for and shot and tested the 10mm for almost 14 years now. My EDC on the "ranch" is a 44mag Vaquero/45LC Ruger Vaquero, and my serious large dangerous game hog legs are still the same, along with SBH, and BH, with 300/310 gr HC bullets for the big boys.
BUT, STAY WITH ME I HAVE A POINT.... I have been getting bit by the G29 bug for "human SD " purposes. and have finally come down to every body in the safe except for the M1911 45acp, and the G29. I have discovered great potensial in the G29 through experimentation in loading, that has really impressed me. (still do not like 135gr'ers... sorry) But I am begining to carry the G29 more and more.
Know that was as hard for me to say as it would be to say hey, "we run a nudist camp on the ranch.." hahaha
WE DON'T so no smart butt remarks you goobers ! HaHa.
I am just saying that with a KKM on the way and some loads I am working on, I am likeking the little gun. (G29).
Oh BTW... I took photo's asap of the the two books that came in the mail to me today and share with ya'll
I pointed out 'flaws" in the 'load data' to the "complete load data for 10mm and 40 S&W book" company. I know you are all most familar with. This was a year ago.
They freaked out.. The absolutely pulled ALL the their inventory and trashed it, and are trying to let the public know there are
'DANGEROUS" flaws in their manuals for 10mm especially with 800X.
They re-wrote the entitire manual over a years time I been working with them, as I found other dangerous flaws as well, (loooong story) and they have tossed them, (the manuals) costing them a fortune ! They have now
reprinted the newer safer updates, and sent me the
first one ever seen on earth by anyone but them, and some other compensations as well.
Why am I sharing this?
Only 'motive period," is so you guys who use these manuals 'or want to', can
now buy them in the
"2011 version' and have your data
for your 10's SAFE !
I Have NO other motive here, just to help folks out. It was an honor for me.
Hey, I got lucky ! :embarassed:
Any way, if there is anything here for y'all to benifit from, praise God. I am happy.
So, I hope between this info, and the link provided here with some pics (not enough game pics, I'll do tthat latter when I got the time to scan) I hope somthing here has blessed y'all, and know
it is in a heart and spirit of humility and just wanting to share and have some fun doing it.
Thank God I got the loading manuals changed for the 10mm, and a few other cals
from presenting my research and testing to these wonderful people,
and my hat is off to them to have trashed a ton of $$$$ worth of stuff over a year, with me working with them, and redo-ing the several manuals for the public.
I know I got the first ones every published "correctly"
But the 2011 versions are the ones to buy now fellas,
especially for 10mm and 40 S&W....
Hope these pics are where you can see them ok..
Well bless y'all and hope this is informative and helpful !
God bless y'all
CM